Re-Drew – Poison Ivy (1992): Drew Barrymore's Sultry & Scheming Comeback Role - How Do You Drew

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We sure are. We are re releasing our Poison Ivy episode that originally came out in 2024. Yes. And let me just explain a little bit why we're doing this. One of the reasons is that I am going on a vacation and it's going to quite interrupt our plan for our next episode. So we decided that we'll be re releasing A listener favorite. This has like tons of listens, mostly on YouTube. Right. Like very recently too, right? So we've just in case people have missed it, we wanted to just kind of put this one back out there.

And this episode will lead in really perfectly to our next one, which will cover Gun Crazy as voted on by our Patreon Daisies. They decided what we're doing next and we've been excited to do this. Yeah, I am really excited. I'm like deep in the notes in the research for Gun Crazy. I think it's going to be an awesome episode. It's such a unique part of Drew's filmography. So these two movies, Poison Ivy and Gun Crazy, they really kind of go hand in hand because 16 year old Drew filmed Gun Crazy almost immediately after Poison Ivy and the movies were released five months apart.

They're both part of this like lethal Lolita era of her career, but also both of these performances in these films really helped propel her career forward after it been stalling out for a few years. So because of both of these, like the momentum really, it started kicking things off for her. So how fun to listen to the Poison Ivy one and then come back right away for Gun Crazy. Totally. I listened to a little bit of the Poison Ivy episode. I do want to say I don't know what was going on with me that day, but I'm like giggling a lot.

So I'm really sorry if that's annoying to people. I'm a giggler. We all know this. And it's like at the end of every sentence as if it's a punctuation mark. And then I also got like a little like, what? Cuz I kept hearing little baby noises in the background. So this is from when Elle was a little 1. And I like for a second I was like, literally like turned around. I thought it was real in the car. Like, what is going on? Yeah, that's so weird. You know, sorry about those little noises. Yes. And Speaking of noises, the audio is not top notch, guys.

Yeah, and it's like weird. That's not that long ago. But it also is like, it's when did we release it? 20. Four, OK, so like we're, yeah, it's been a while. We've worked on our audio a lot, so it's not the best. But you know, we have to also address one other thing that we talked about in the episode. We still, we didn't at this time, we still don't believe that Leonardo Dicaprio's part in the movie is visible at all, even though there's a clip on YouTube where they're like Leo and Poison Ivy. We just watch it again.

Still don't think it's him. I know I was telling Anne I was like questioning reality because I hear us in an episode where like adamant it is not him. But then if you like, look it up, all these places refer to this one clip. Like one person decided that was him and put it on YouTube. And so everyone just went along with it. We don't think it's him. And I found like some newer information. He was on like a podcast not too long ago and he talks about this. And he said that he originally had this whole monologue where he insults Sarah Gilbert character and he like messed up his lines.

And they said, OK, forget the monologue. Like just walk in and look at her and say problems. So I'm like, this has to be when she's like inside the principal's office, like waiting, you know what I mean? Because of like where his credit lands in the order of appearance. So he walks in and says problems. But they ended up cutting it out of the movie. So Leo himself says, I am not in the movie at all. I am actually not in it at all. They completely edited me out. That's straight from the horse's mouth, guys.

It is. And then you have another little note here that supposedly Cat Shea, the director, has said that she kept his name in the credit so that he'd get paid, which makes sense. Yeah, I mean, this happens. I like always think weirdly enough one of his best buddies Tobey Maguire, he has a credit in Empire Records and he does not appear in the movie at all like his Parker cut. But the way that like SAG and contracts and all that work, like sometimes you still end up getting your credit even if they cut you out of the movie.

OK so back to what we're doing here, we are doing a redrew of our Poison Ivy episode so I hope you enjoy it either for the first time or re listening. Yes, and then we'll see you guys back for gun crazy. We're going to hit the road and have some crime. And have some. Crime. I love crime. That's what you do, right? You have it. You don't commit it. Oh my God. Yes, OK, everybody enjoy and we will see you. I was going to say we'll see you next Tuesday. I guess we will. We. Will. We'll see you soon for gun crazy, so enjoy this Redrew.

Let's jump into Poison Ivy. Poison Ivy. This is like feel like one of the big heavy hitters of Drew's filmography, one of the most important in terms of like where her career trajectory went. And I think it's a fan favorite. Like, there's so many reasons to get to this one. And I think we're a little intimidated for a bit, but we're ready. We're ready, baby. So we're going to just jump into some facts a little bit here. So Poison Ivy was written by Melissa Goddard. It was based on a real life incident that happened to her.

I did not know that. Yeah, I would love the details. Who knows how like close might just been like my friend kind of bonded with my mom and I was annoyed. True. And Co written with Andy Ruben and Cat Shea and directed by Cat Shea. I don't know how much we'll get into like the fact that it's directed by a woman, but it is very interesting to think of it through that lens. Yeah, and mostly written by women. So I do appreciate that. And I think there is definitely some like male gazy stuff. There is some stuff where I'm like why'd they go there?

But. But there is kind of like empowerment a little bit. Yeah. And there's also like, I feel like it could have been worse, like it could have been exploitative, which I don't really think it is, but we'll get into. That yeah, we'll get into it. Do you want the IMDb summary? This is a really good one all. Right, so good, we have the one sentence summary from IMDb. A seductive team befriends and introverted high school student and schemes her way into the lives of her wealthy family. True, that's like pretty succinct.

Accurate. I mean, the only things that are missing are spoilers, so. Yeah, it's a good job, IMDb. That's pretty good. Once in a while. Beams is like the the. Keyword here. I know. I'm surprised you didn't use that word in my notes. I used manipulation a lot, though. All right, so let's talk about the production of this film, how it came to be. OK, we can put ourselves at a time and place. We're in the very early 19901991. Drew is trying to distance herself from what she always says is like America's apple pie, the image of Gertie and ET.

But she was also struggling to get roles post rehab. And also like due to her age, she's in this weird awkward in between space. It makes a lot of sense that this is departing from that apple pie image like it couldn't be a bigger departure so successful. Yeah, and she was just talking to Christine Taylor and David Lasher on her show about this. So let's hear how she described it in 2024, years and years and years later. So one day I did get an idea and I was like, huh, if they think I'm such a kid, what if I tried something different and I found this script called Poison Ivy?

Then that's what I did for a couple years. I was doing those kind of more Femi sexualized, you know, roles. Perfect clip and that makes me feel like we're doing this I mean I know we could have done it the last 8 weeks and we've been fine but also like that we're doing it at the right time to revisit it when like she can see looking back like she was taking power right I don't know it was yeah I. I don't really feel like there's anything in her career she looks back on like, oh, I wish we wouldn't talk about that.

But true it is. It is like reassuring and validating when she's like, yeah, let's talk about how sexy I was in Poison Ivy. Yeah, that it, that it's like there isn't. She's not being shamed, she doesn't feel shameful. Like that's really nice and empowering. She also spoke about this briefly on the E Celebrity profile that that interview was from 1997. So we're jumping all over time, but it's cool because we've got lots of different viewpoints. And eventually word gets around town that you're doing well, you're doing good on your auditions.

That led to another audition. And that audition led to someone talking to another person who was doing a low budget film called Poison Ivy, and that was my first film back. Celebrity profile and. Celebrity profile returns. Yeah, it's it's cool. I love seeing both of these looks back. Yeah. So yes, the one thing that we've probably talked about before, and this is like kind of known about how Drew felt when she heard that Ivy had a tattoo of a cross with Ivy on it. She was like, I've got a very similar one on my ankle and this feels meant to be.

She, like, always kind of had that feeling. And it was so fresh. Yes, that tattoo. So yeah, I love that that it was like her final sign of like, Yep, this is the this is the way to go. And you pulled a clip from Cat Shea talking about Drew and the role, so I'm going to go ahead and read this. So she said. I hadn't thought about Drew for the part at all, but I knew the minute she walked up my front steps, she was perfect. She's got this quality. It's kind of the Angel and devil wrapped up into one.

She's so seductive. She can manipulate anybody into doing whatever she wanted. Well said. Yes. I mean, that is Drew, right? Innocent and like experienced, all at once, always, all, all stages of her life. Do we know anything about anyone else that was considered for this? No. Gosh, that would be amazing to find out. Who else would have been able to pull it off? Wynonna. No, just kidding. Oops.

And so we have a lot of material here where Drew talks about what it was like to play a character like Ivy. Some of these might be a little repetitive, but there was just so much good stuff I kept coming across. I don't know. I also love a long quote that gives us like the entire feeling and we we know we like how Drew describes things, so if they're her describing things, I'm all for it. So let's start with some little clips. Eh, let's do it. This is the girl that you've envied your whole life, that you always wanted to be in your wildest fantasies, but never ever, ever dreamed or even thought of becoming someone like that.

And for me, being Ivy let me live out those fantasies. OK, Drew agreed. I hear more. Sometimes we laugh because it's fun, because I, I really get to play a bad girl in this, you know, and I, I get to get out all my anger through my character, which is pretty interesting sometimes to see myself released. So that was cool. That one was on set. Yeah, I love that. Oh my gosh, that there is like actually some really great onset footage that's available, which is so surprising. Like you would think this would not be.

Yeah, for. This just small little movie. And they call, she called it like low budget, you know, Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so let's jump into some of these quotes you pulled. Yeah, I pulled a lot for magazines. So these are all for magazines from 19911992. The first one is quote. I play a girl who has nothing, who befriends another girl who has everything. My character tries to acquire everything her friends got. Her motives are good, but the way she goes about it is bad. The movie crosses a certain line of behavior.

It explores territory I found interesting. Do we do we think that the other girl has everything? To Ivy, she does for sure. Yeah, sure, she has the family. The house, the dog. True. It's all that. Here's another one. Ivy is a good girl. Her motives are right, she just goes about getting things the wrong way. I had to play her so that people would love and accept her and at the same time I hate what she's doing. It was really hard and I loved it. That's a great, like, great way of putting it because you do kind of really enjoy Ivy even though you don't agree with what she's doing.

And and part of it is the manipulation. Like we can see through it as the audience, but it's also like she can pull that off. Yeah, yeah. Another quote. It was the hardest film I've done in my whole life. It was this role you have to basically turn your life over to. My character has no family. She's a complete free spirit. Then she becomes best friends with this girl. We're both total outcasts, but we're very opposite. She dresses in overalls and hats and I dress in cowboy boots and skirts up to my undies.

Kind of scangy. We'll get into that later. They use the word scangy at least at least twice in this movie. I yeah, these comparisons like, yeah, it's, it's true. They are both outcasts, but they're very different and they. But it's like, is there a friendship completely based on this manipulation? Like, yeah, kind of. We'll have some things to say about that. I have, I have mixed feelings. Yeah. Well, yeah, we will get into that because there was a point actually, I just when I, when she's like pretending to be her mom that I was like, that's kind of sweet.

She's giving her a moment to talk about her mom. And then I was like. I think she starts genuinely, like, maybe there is a power dynamic and she knows she has the upper hand, but I think she genuinely wants to be friends with Sylvie. Yeah. And then things start turning. Yeah. Let's talk about that more because I think there there are definite moments where you can go like, oh, that's actually darling. Totally. Yeah, OK, so here's another. I play a girl by the name of Ivy, and my character is very intelligent, a very bright and funny girl.

If you've ever met a person who you're in awe of at first sight, that's who my character is. An amazing human being who brightens the lives of those whose path she crosses. A blooming flower who has no friends and no family, that one. But that's a really cool 1A blooming flower who has no friends in their family. The whole thing you it's definitely she's skirting around how like evil ideas in that one and you would just be like wow, like it almost sounds like true, right?

I like it though. Yeah. All right, we're almost done with these descriptions, but here's another great 1. Ivy was the kind of girl who in reality, you would never want to become. But maybe when you were younger you even knew a girl like Ivy who made you say, why can't I be that free? Why can't I just do the things she does? Even though what she does is wrong, at least she has the guts to go and do it. I loved Ivy so much for that and wanted to play her regardless of whether it was a good career move.

And she's saying this like the year it came out, so yeah. I think she knew deep down it was gonna be a good career move, or she hoped anyway. I mean, based on what she was just saying on her show to Christine Taylor, like she hoped this would be what it was. She was right. Of course there was a risk, but she somehow was charming enough that people didn't find it actually. Like, I don't know, whatever they might find it, I don't know. It's, it is very cool that she can talk about this character this way.

Like she knew that she was just representing somebody that other people would admire, you know? And it really shows that she really understood the character of Ivy, like in all these different facets, because she's describing her in a lot of different ways here. And I think that probably really. It comes off, I think, yeah, that she knows it's like a multi fat. It's it is not a singular you don't understand Ivy. We don't know who she is and that's like fascinating. So anyway, here's one here's one more she said.

I always wanted to play Lolita and this was my last chance. I felt like including that just so we could go on a quick little side thing about her obsession with Lolita all throughout, like her young years. It's kind of interesting, and I don't want to go too much on like a soapbox about like the underage stuff, but I think at this time she saw Lolita as like this seductive manipulator. And I think like, as I've gotten older and known more about the story, that's really not what it's about. And like, she's a victim in that story.

But it's interesting that Drew was so obsessed with it. Like it comes up so many times when she's younger. But probably because of the film, right? Because like the film could. Be yeah was. So I I actually have never seen it. But. It was so. Iconic. She picked it for the essentials. That was the only time I've seen it. Is it Stanley Kubrick? Yeah. Yeah. So like, I don't know. I mean, there could be something to it that it wasn't like she wasn't even thinking about the story as much as it was like a beautiful young girl.

Getting to Yeah, I think you're right. I don't know cuz there, I mean there is some as weird as it is for us as adults to go like, you know, young girls, like we don't want to think of any young girls that way and yet we want girls to feel sexy and powerful. Yeah, I think she was taking it that way when she was this age. I don't, I I'd be very curious which her take on Lolita is these days. But she was, I mean, she name dropped it a lot back then. So I do like thinking that that's sort of what she was inspired by in some way, even if she was misunderstanding the story.

There's no way it couldn't be inspired by it, I feel like, right? This is a cool little detail. I don't remember this. So Drew celebrated getting the role of Ivy by indulging in a shopping spree, and she went to her favorite stores, Benetton, Aardvarks and The Gap. Is this Aardvarks on Melrose? I think so, yeah. That's what I was thinking. Isn't it fun? And I think I don't know why I feel this way, but is that where they're shot? Are they shopping on Melrose in the movie? Like when she gets the leather skirt?

I don't know why I think that. Or is it just Melrose esque? I don't know. Kind of cool to think about. There's a couple like things in the movie where I'm like, where's that exactly? Like even though we'll get into it, but we've been to a couple locations, but there are even more than I'm like I should look because it's probably all right around that same general area of LA. Probably, yeah. It's a very LA movie in some ways, and not another's kind of interesting. Yeah. Let's quickly talk about the rest of the cast, because there's really not that many other people.

There's some really small roles, but pretty much we just have Sara Gilbert, who I think is the lead of this movie, even if she's not the type little character. She plays Sylvie Cooper or Coop as Ivy calls her. They later reunited in riding cars with boys, which is really fun. Like, it's such a cute little thing. I just love that and. I don't immediately think of it. That's the other cool thing about it. And also that it was only it was only nine years later. That's also another trippy thing. Yeah, that's really weird.

But Sarah was on the Drew Barrymore Show in 2021, and I just thought this is a little long, but I just thought it was too cute and not to include this. Just sort of hearing how it was like back then. I'm not wanting to kiss and tell but. Please do. But I have to say, look, now I'm like in a blush. Dre was the coolest person that I ever met. And yeah, and that's what happened. Well, we were supposed to kiss on in the movie, but then we started practicing in the trailer, which was kind of fun. We had.

To practice right, it was really just us doing research. Exactly. We were like, oh, I guess we should like practice because we wanted to look good on screen. We had so much fun. I remember, I feel like it was in the parking lot in Los Feliz, right? We were like, had that little base camp. Oh yeah. I drove that Jeep and I used to go get like ice cream on the lunch breaks and I was like constantly getting into accidents. I think of my license taken away all that movie. I remember you like dancing on the hood of the Jeep.

And yeah, it was you were a wild child, but in the best possible way, I was impressed. Oh, that's. So cute. I know what great details. You were a wild child. That was so cute. Some other cast that we've gotta introduce, so we have Tom Skerritt as the dad, Darrell. He has said that Drew represented herself as someone who is going to overcome whatever problems she had. That's really cool. Yeah, I like that a lot. Yeah, he clearly respected her presentation of herself. That's really. Cool and how like professional she was.

Probably. And then finally, Cheryl Ladd plays the mom, Georgie, and I think it's cool that she was a Charlie's Angel, you know, years before Drew became one. And then I always also like that her daughter Jordan Ladd is in Never Been kissed. She's the main mean girl, giddy. So that's sort of a fun connection. That's. Right. We also kind of have to talk about the fact that Leonardo DiCaprio is credited as guy, quote UN quote. So people think you can see him and have like thought that he's walking out of like the school and no.

No, it's not him. It's weird because the credits say that they're in order of appearance, but when I was and I sort of remember them being that way like on the VHS. Maybe I'm losing my mind, but when I watched it this time, they are not in order of appearance. So it's not really helpful to figure out where he's at. But he was friends with Sara Gilbert. He was probably on set. We know you know, based on like first hand from our friend Jolena's boyfriend Jason. He was a never been kissed. He was contracted a certain way.

He ended up not getting to do that part, but he still gets the credit because of the way that Sag works. I'm a so just because Leo isn't in the movie doesn't mean he wasn't credited. And just because he's credited doesn't mean you're going to find him anywhere. So weird, but we yeah, we don't have really any details. Yeah, it just makes me crazy that there's this clip on YouTube like this is him and it's like, no, it's not. OK, so Drew said about the crew at the time. She said the crew was the tightest, closest family I've ever had.

I was like everyone's little sister but makes me happy to think of her feeling protected. That's so weird, like if you pulled that quote and said what movie is she talking about I would have guessed ET. Yeah, but it's like to think of her feeling safe. It's really lovely to imagine with a role like this. I know there's also an onset video interview and we'll link to a lot of these, but she kind of says that same old thing about how she got so close to the crew and was gonna have to say goodbye to them.

We've been talking about this a lot on our Patreon when we're going through Little Girl Lost, so it's just a reoccurring theme in her life. Patreon.com. How do you drew all? Right, we have to talk about the sex scenes with Tom Skerritt. Yeah, and this is important to address ahead of time too, because it's it, we mentioned that the movies raunchy. If you're listening to this, you probably know that already. Raunchy. Raunchy. Scangy. It's stangy, raunchy. Drew gets down. She does. I'll go ahead and read the first quote that you pulled.

So she said, it's funny because we were both really nervous and I thought he'd just come right out on set and take over and everything would be perfect. But he was really shy. So I had to be the one with the ovaries and say, OK, let's go. I saw some of the dailies and they look really hot. They're very passionate and erotic, but also very subtle. And again, this is before the movie came out that she's talking about this. Be the one with the ovaries. I know, I love that. She also said I was just as nervous as he was, but I had to act like it wasn't to make him more comfortable.

So pretty much the same thing. But I feel like that's kind of funny because I actually kind of appreciate that, that he was sort of like, this is weird, you know? You're 16. I don't want the other way around in kind of any scenario. So he's even if he's not shy, I'm glad he acted shy, you know? So Drew was upset about a body double that they used for her even though she was emancipated and legally 18. And she said about that. I had to sit there and watch her do it. And I was cringing in my seat.

It's difficult to like, watch someone else fake you. I can't. Even imagine how weird that would be. No. And then of course, as we mentioned in our movie line 1992, she said, No offense to the girl, but I have prettier boobs. So I think the version I watched didn't have like the uncut stuff. Is it just like 1 scene where he lifts the shirt? Yes, that's what I think it is. So it's not even that blatant. OK, Yeah. But I remember reading this, yes. So if you want to listen to us talk more about that for any reason, listen to that movie Live Activity 2 episode that we did because it's a great one.

Yeah, it was definitely something we sort of did to gear up to this episode. They're nice companion pieces. And the last little production note I have is that the title changed a few times for this movie. At one point they were calling it Desire, and that's actually even printed on some press photos, which is wild. Yeah, I think I have a couple of them. Interesting. And then when Drew did a cover feature for Venice magazine in early 1992, she said that the movie was being called Our House, which I'm so glad they changed that.

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Are we ready to jump into talking about the movie? Yeah, insert sexy saxophone music here It is. Like, right when it starts, you're like, whoa. In fact, I bet you that was one of those moments as a teenager, right? Put it on and was immediately like, Oh my God, what is this? Nobody listening to this. Yeah. OK, so let's jump into just going through the movie. I think when we first did these episodes, we were like talking about everything, talking through it. This is just us, like making note of stuff we thought was fun to know.

Yeah, which there's plenty. I took a lot of notes this time around. Yeah, and I just, I, I took a few notes to, to go alongside this, but this is just us kind of as we're watching, we just go, that's fun. That's fun. So not comprehensive. Again, if you haven't seen the movie, watch the movie, because we're talking about very specific things. And there will be a lot of spoilers. Absolutely. So yeah, sexy sax. I have to say, at some point, I think I noted that maybe like there's like a theme song.

Like there's, there's definitely a theme, right. And I think they use it. I was trying to figure out if there were differences throughout the movie. There's some variations and there's also like the moms, kind of like there's a couple themes, but I know the main one is right. Of course, the moms theme. Yeah, of course. Good. The music is really cheesy but really good. Yeah, so let's talk about, like, her. Look right away. Come on. Oh well. Immediately. I really love that it starts off just as like literally opening credits.

There's just these shots of Ivs like accessories and her clothes and her hair, and then she flips that hair and we get her sweet, beautiful face and it's a great opening and great reveal. Yeah, those first shots of her, yeah, I love those, like individual little reveals. On the rope swing, I should have said she's on the rope swing. Yes, she's on the rope swing. And just right away you're like, oh, I get it. This is like a badass. Yeah. This is like a sexy badass cuz that looks scary I know and Drew looks beautiful.

It's a beautiful like opening of just like her. And Sara Gilbert's characters watching her and like, writing in her journal maybe, or sketching her. And I love her voice over here and throughout the whole movie. It's the perfect like awkward teen. She's trying so hard to be cool, but she's just a nerd like and it's just so good. I think she does a great job at it and it really does. And the voice over is great. Like there are sometimes when voice overs are like why? But I actually feel like it feels well suited because we needed.

Her dialogue, yeah, We need to know this is her story because Ivy's so enchanting. Otherwise it would sort of become hers. You already said she used the word scangy. No, but I loved immediately. I was like, scangy, That's a great word. We got to use that more often. That's going to become a word of the pod. I just know it. Scangy. And my last note on this opening scene is that it ends with Ivy winking at Sylvie. And I feel like it's, and Sylvie's like taken off guard, like, oh, who knew I was watching you.

And it's sort of like, Yep, Ivy's already on to her. She's already knows. Like, she's sly, she's wise. She's paying attention. That's why she's a good manipulator. She's. Street smart from living living the way she did. Yeah, because we get just like little peeks of who the real person is. Yeah, Yeah. The see the next scene where they have to like basically kill the dog because it had been hit by a car and quote UN quote Ivy comes out and does the job. It's so brutal. I don't know, like, you know, this probably was my first time watching this movie on like a really good TV on like a nice Blu-ray player.

Don't watch that scene if you don't like that kind of stuff because it is gory. Like I don't even want to go into detail, but I was like, whoa, why are we showing that? It was really upsetting. Yeah, I didn't watch a high quality version of the movie. Hey. You're probably lucky, but I think it's kind of an interesting foreshadowing. And spoilers here. Ivy comes in and, like, this dog got hit by a car. Ivy comes in and someone's got to, like, basically put the dog out of its misery. That's sort of what I think Ivy thinks she's doing.

It's like a mercy kill. And I think it's kind of similar to what she ends up doing to the mom where she's like, she wanted to die. Like, I just, you know, she justifies it to herself. Yeah, it's a cool foreshadowing it. Is interesting that she is able to do that without any. Like basically they show Ivy's face after she does it and she's just like. She's like, yeah, what? Matter of fact. Yeah, there's also some really cute onset footage of Drew complaining that the pole that she uses is too heavy for her to swing.

I think I remember that little clip that is really funny. But she manages, he does manage, and she looks like a bad ass right away. Like, her entry into this movie is like, all right, she's swinging on a swing. She's. She's swinging a pole. Pretty crazy. Let's talk about the next scene, which was at a location that we visited. Yeah. So the. So the high school, there's a school called Alvaro High School in Sierra Madre. This is close to where I was living for a long time, but I think we visited it before that maybe.

Yeah. And remember this next part, it was used in No Place to Hide, which was filmed just a few months prior. That's so weird too. Yeah, what a weird coincidence. It's like, I think it's like a convent in that movie. I know it's like when she's wearing the overalls, like towards the end. I barely remember that movie. But I believe Kent, our friend Kent, who is by the way, like the biggest Poison Ivy fan there is, I think he was the one that realized it was in that movie as well. OK. And then I just noticed watching Legally Blonde recently that it's like the sorority house in the beginning of the movie.

I was like, wait a minute, that's the Poison Ivy school. That's funny. There's so much stuff that's used for filming in like that area. Sierra Madre, Pasadena South Pasadena is just like filming capital, and this was in the 90s, but it still is. That's so cool. Yeah. So at the school, Sylvia has to go to the principal's office, let's assume, and Ivy's already in there. And she shows that her tattoo is a stick on tattoo, this cross with the Ivy through it that we mentioned before on her leg. And I have a funny story and there's this great Instagram account called at 90s Girlfriends.

And she's like one of us, Like she has all the like 90s Drew memories, everything. Yeah, a lot of the stuff gets reposted on our social media because, yeah, it's so relevant. And I saw her leave a comment somewhere. I hope she's OK with me sharing this, But it was so funny to me about it was about that kind of stick on tattoo in the movie. And like, is that even a thing that exists? And she said that when the US 1997 magazine came out with the big picture of Drew's butterfly tattoo, she cut that out and used Vaseline to try to stick it on like the Ivy tattoo.

That's like so amazing, isn't? That amazing. That is so amazing. 90s teen girls. Less permanent than getting the actual thing. Right. Which I do have a butterfly tattoo inspired by Drew. And no, no regrets. But yeah, did you notice that we get a little bit of that Drew Child smirk happening in this scene when she talks about the nose ring? Yeah, I forget what the line was, but I completely noticed. It she says like feels like you've got a booger going like or something like that. But she does that same exact like I'm about to laugh smirk.

Yeah, love that little thing. She hadn't grown out of it yet. So they're kind of getting to know each other. I am. Sylvie goes outside to her dad's car, and his very first words in the movie to his daughter are I ought to slap you. It's like. Yikes. Introduction of father. Not, not cool. But then it makes me laugh so hard. I always laugh at this. I laugh at a lot of Sylvie's lines. Yeah, because she's just, she's just so like, sad and pathetic. Ivy asks for a ride, Dad says no. They just met 3 minutes ago and she was dad.

She's my best friend and I it just kills me every time. I don't think of her as being a loser, I think her just being like, I really want to be cool and the way I can convince my dad is to act like a little girl and say she's my best friend. But I also think it's really funny and cute. So right there, she just makes up the name Ivy. Yeah, she doesn't even know her name. No, she doesn't know her name. And then she says your name is Ivy, by the way, before she gets into the car. And then she gets in the car.

And Ivy is kind of like, oh, OK, I like that. Yeah, I think afterwards, like when they get somewhere or like, I don't know, they, they address it again like a couple minutes later and she's like, oh, what is your name by the way? And she says. I like Ivy, sort of gives me the chance to start over. Yeah, that's right. I forgot about that. So Ivy is not even her name. We know nothing about her. I'm going to jump ahead by saying this but the the stupid sequels totally act like her name is Ivy and I remember what the first time I watched one of them I was like Nope I'm out.

Her name wasn't Ivy. You're wrong. And, and it's also like almost like throw away. Yeah. He's like, what's her name? Ivy. Like just kind of cut. She looks over at her tattoo. She's like Ivy wrapped around her cross and says Ivy. Yeah, it's pretty great and it makes sense for the character, I think. Like we don't really. Need to know about her best friend we we learn at little tidbits like that her mom was on drugs and or whatever like she when she was blasted she had to drive her mom around like there you know whatever she said so we know that there was not a good.

I get upbringing. No, I do love and she pulls this more than once she says like, oh, I'm I get carsick. I have to sit in the front seat and that's the probably the first like true little manipulation that she does. Like I'm going to get my way by doing this, although. You don't know it yet. Yeah, you don't. But I think when she pulls it again with after the tattoos, I'm like, oh, this is intentional, you little sneak. Yep, absolutely. And then I thought I made myself laugh with this little no, but the sprinklers turn on before she gets in the car and she gets all wet.

And I was like, is this a foreshadowing that there is so much rain in this movie? Especially like this is LA and it rains constantly in this. Movie and weirdly like LA does get a lot of rain sometimes, but to capture it that way. Like do they? Do they actually say like it's Los Angeles? Do they like call it out? No, but they talk about like street names and stuff like that and like the view from the house is very clearly the LA skyline. Oh, of course. Yeah, of course. Actually, I had a thought when they show the skyline off topic, but on topic, Drew's house has such a cool view of like Dust Island and I like would be curious to kind of compare like what was her view versus what's the view from the house?

I don't know. Oh. That's a cool idea. We should do that. Yeah. Only nerds like us would get excited. Yeah. So just a little bit about like that moment in the car where she's in the front seat and, you know, Sylvie's in the back. She's like meeting the dad for the first time and like totally being flirty, like right away. Oh, instantly she does that cute little tongue stick out, which is so cute. Except when you think about that, she's like flirting with this old dude. I think it's like because they're talking about having to get.

Oh yeah, like condoms for. School and that they have to like learn how to be comfortable with asking for it and it's like it's not like they want us to like mess around or anything and it's just a little like and then she like has her her shoes up on the dash and like this nice car and I'm just like. Oh, Oh yeah. Instantly making herself at home, very much her. And then of course, I was like, she loses her boots so many times in this movie. And I'm like, it's just like Cinderella later on. It was meant to be.

Yeah, yeah. So yeah, we've now been officially introduced to Ivy and her first little manipulations. Yeah, All right. I titled this next part as Ivy comes over. I think it's like the next day and the girls kind of are walking home from school together. Ivy's learning about Coop's life and her dad, and I felt like Drew's real life pain about her own dad really came through in this part. So I think he really cares about you. My dad didn't want me anywhere around. He gets so pissed if you tried to talk to him.

He'd throw stuff at me like food or spitballs. And it's like her own dad. But I laughed at spitballs because it's so funny. But yeah, I know. I like when she was saying it. Like it basically was like she had an abusive relationship with her dad. And you could almost pluck that out in that line directly. Like is her experience. And she's looking at this other girl who she thinks has everything and. So beautiful, where did you get it? My dad. He must really love you.

He gave you that little stuffed bear once, Drew. That's true. It's not funny. Don't you forget no. So Sylvie starts telling some lies here. It's so embarrassing. Like she says she's half black and that he's not her real dad and I'm just like so much embarrassment for her. But the only reason we know that is because she, like, is talking to her mom. And I forgot that. And when I read your note, I was like, what's she talking about? And then, yeah, they're like, did you tell your friend you're half black?

Yeah, and she also says that she, like, had tried to commit suicide, but really she, like, ran through like, a glass window or something. It's just like, she's trying so hard. It's so real to being a teenage girl. Oh my God, it's painful. And yeah, she does it beautifully because it feels real and we feel that like. Yeah. Yes. And then this is the first time we see the house, the Cooper House in Los Feliz, which we also got to visit. So this is one of the two locations that we visited. Of course, Lindsay Blake helped find the address.

Yep, Lindsay, if I'm not a stalker, I think I also tasked her with this one. We were just talking over on Patreon about how I asked her to find Drew one of Drew's houses, and I think I also asked her to find this. And of course she succeeded like she always does. I remember it took us so long to get there that day. It was like one of the stupidest LA traffic days. It was like 2 miles away and it took us like an hour or something insane like that, Yeah. I feel like I remember like it's not even that far up a road.

Like it's not like far off of beaten path. Every time you've gone to do like 2 locations in A in LA, it takes. Forever, yeah. But I do remember, like seeing the balcony was so cool because it really the house mostly looks very similar. We have photos on our website, thejerusalem.com/locations. You can see our pictures and we always like to kind of put them next to screenshots or the movie, but yeah, this was really neat. There's some slight differences, but for the most part it looks very very similar.

Like we stood in the spot where basically Drew and Cheryl Ladd both fell and died. Yeah, that's right. It's like right there. I guess it's also the spot where like Fred the dog is like going back and forth is right in front of that. And that's like that's St. side. It's not like a private space. Yeah, it's right there. You don't have to. You don't have to trespass, Yes. Exactly. So the girls are becoming friends. This is where it feels like pretty authentic. Like I don't think Ivy is like, oh, I'm gonna just totally take over this girl's life.

I think they're having fun together. The music gets very cheesy here. There's a lot of cheesy music, as I said before. But this is, I always feel like this is like we're becoming friends, like this little song. And it's sort of like starts to twinkle in a little bit, like I feel like in that scene because they're sort of like an awkward, like Ivy is like going to leave and then she's sort of like half heartedly turns away and then like turns back at such a like, I don't know. Like, do you want to come over?

I don't want to be friends. Yeah, me neither. It's like. Yeah, did you crack up? When Ivy comes into the house and plays the piano, I'm like this girl does not know how to play the piano like this.

Honestly it sounded to me like they pressed a like pre programmed keyboard piano like really quickly and then turn it off. But she's supposed. To be playing like that. But I guess the point is that it wakes up the mom or brings the mom around. OK, that's why they had to do that. Yeah, So Sylvie's mom is talking to her kind of privately about Ivy. She's like, the way she describes her cracks me up. She's like, she's got a woman, a naked woman with a sword on her jacket or something like. That is that someone who you want to spend time with or something like that, she says.

Like, what do you think that says to the boys? And then Sylvie's like, try anything funny and I'll cut your Dick off. I loved that. I love that she looks at her mom like, yeah, that's good, right? Like we do want guys to know to try anything funny. Like this is this is the person I want to protect me mom. Yeah, right. Oops. Except Ivy's just going to destroy everything. Spoiler alert. But of course, Ivy is, like, lurking and hears this and walks in and it's like, oh, I'm causing a problem. And she really ingratiates herself to this mom in such a good way.

Like, I really love the scene. I think Drew is so good in this. I think I know this was used on, like, a talk show for, like, the clip that they pulled. Yeah. I'm really a fan of this part.

I hope that when I die, I'll have owned a sports car. I had a family, a home. My mom died, an old lady who never did anything with the top down.

One day with the top down is better than a lifetime in a box.

The one day with the top down is better than a lifetime in a box is so sweet. But it's also like she kind of is she? I think she sees the picture of the mom with the car that ends up coming into play later. And she's like making this observation, but she's also like taking notes. That's the thing about like Ivy is like like mentioning the car with the top down. Like all that feels very like. You know, she even says, like, I bet you drove it with the top down, even in the rain. Like she, you're right.

She's like noting all these things. She even notes the dress the mom is wearing in that photo with the car. But yeah, I guess we didn't mention the mom is bedridden essentially. Like, is she actually sick? She has like emphysema or something. It's very questionable. Yeah, her breathing gets really. But she's like, they see it. They show her smoking on the patio and she's like a breathing problem. So I Sylvie says at one point she spends her life dying. Like Sylvie's definitely like doesn't really buy it I feel like.

Yeah, I mean she does say I think after she after her mom dies something like a spoiler alert. Also she's like I thought she was faking. Yeah. I mean, that would be hard if your mom was sick like the whole time you were. I don't know. All right, so now if you just kind of casually just starts living there. Pretty much the way she puts her feet up in the car, she puts her her whole life into this house, like I'm just going to be here. Again, And she's just like sleeping in the same bed with Coop and and I think that there's some great voice over that kind of says like, and then I we just moved in, you know, yeah, basically it just happened.

I always loved there's this really quick shot and where she's wearing this like black and white sort of tank stripe dress. I do love that. And her hair is up in a different way, and it's so brief, but she's like, putting on the fake tattoo. But I've always loved. It's such a quick moment, but I've always loved it. Yeah, it always feels special. I love a stripe. Me too, especially black and white. And it looks so cute on her and it's different than other stuff. It feels like almost not Ivy. Yeah, it does.

And one thing I like about this movie is that the wardrobe is reused, which I always appreciate that for feeling more authentic and real. And you definitely see the same pieces used throughout this movie, which feels good. It's genuine. Yeah, I you point out that Ivy is so rude to the dad while she's sunbathing and like, yeah, right away she just acts like she owns the place, like she's. Yeah, she's like, you're blocking my son, like or something like that. Maybe she doesn't say that, but that's the attitude.

Yeah. Then her shoes fall in the water, but they just are like, so precariously just like at the edge of the pool, Like, it's like, or whatever it is, like the fountain. Fountain. Yeah. Yeah, she's super rude. And then, you know, she's like, those boosts cost 150 bucks. And then he's like, oh, he's such a dork in this part. He's like so excited about her out there and her little tied up top and he gives her the money and she's like playing sort of like a tug of war with it. And he's like, he's like freaking out.

Yeah, he has such a little boy like grin on his face is so oh God. And but if it it has like I think the cringe adds to it in a win. Yes, I do too. Definitely if he was like smooth about it, it. It would feel gross. I don't know. That's one thing I have a note later on that sort of feels less gross because this character, his character is uncomfortable the entire time. He's like miserable about this. He's never like, yes, I'm going to go for this girl. Like, and yes, he has the power dynamic. He's the man, he's the older person, but he is really just like succumbing to it and like unhappy to do it.

I don't know. I feel like that helps with the gross. I saw your note and maybe we'll just discuss it more than because I was like, really? I don't know. Like he's so unhappy about it all. Yeah, I feel like I had another thought about the boots. I think he says, like, keep the chain because he gives me, like, a little bit of extra money or something. It's like, dude. Oh my God. I mean, I guess he doesn't. He probably just thinks this is their exchange. It's going to be silly. And who? She's being flirty.

Why? You know, Yeah, maybe a little thrill out of it. Oh yes. So then we get basically, this is like the first, I think, 2 very obvious ploys on Ivy's part. Like there's no question that she's doing something underhanded with these. Like if you go back later, you can sort of see snippets. But she took that money and then she just goes and gets the boots and dumps the water out. So like, cool. I don't think I really ever fully crashed that until I saw and I was like, oh, yeah. Like I think I realized, yeah, she pours the water out of her boot and puts it on.

But I just didn't, even though it's right before. I didn't realize, like, oh, she just got the money to replace boots that she's keeping anyway. Yeah. And then there's a phone call to Sylvie's phone. And so I get, it's kind of confusing. I, I think because I watched it so many times, I understand. But Sylvie volunteers for this group called Head Start with like, inner city children, where she helps them read. Essentially, that's like. She's like helps tutor and yeah. So there's a phone call from that group and they're saying, hey, can you help out on this particular night?

And she looks at the calendar and on that night is the dad's having a big work party. And it has like, totally. And like, big bold writing. Dad's birthday. Yeah, like Sylvie's actually excited about it. And she says, yeah, she can totally do it. Yep, I'm putting it on the calendar. And that's when you're like. I think she says that day is totally clear. Yeah, she's up to no good. And again, the little charm is on. So she's like, Nope, got it here. Like wrote it down. I think I feel like on the other end, they're like, do you need to call and remind her or she'll be like, you know, oh God, don't.

Call again. Yeah. So how far are we into the movie? And she's already just pulling it over and over again. Yeah. My last note is that this poor maid, she is just like so over this family shit. I. Think that part they, like, break an espresso machine, Yeah. And it just like explodes and like somebody's just. Like, sigh. Oh. My God, they're just making just, like, make wreaking havoc on the kitchen. Yeah, Yeah. Now we jump to them getting a tattoo. I don't even remember how that happens. I think they decide to ditch school.

Yeah, yeah. And Sylvie's like, let's do something that'll make my parents crazy or something like that. And I was like, oh, I know what we can go do. Yeah, and then he's already in the middle of tattooing her when he asks her if she's of age. Oh this guy is so disgusting. Like this would never, you would never put this guy in a movie these days. Like with how gross he is. And it's pointless too. Why do we have to have this guy be so nasty? With him, well, yeah, he like, drinks a little bit of beer and, like, spit it on their tattoo.

Like it's so bad. And he's talking about like, a tattoo of a penis. He's just disgusting. But I thought it was cute that he asks her like, Are you sure you're 18 or something? And she says, I'm 22. And I was like, oh, her lucky number. We love when that shows up. I love that she just goes and she's 30 over to Sylvie, and I'm almost like, I don't almost believe that that was like something about it. Like they don't look 15 or 16 or however old they're supposed to be.

That scene is just, yeah, it's cringy, but it's supposed to be. It's like one of those things where like, we're like, they're like putting themselves into this situation so they can do something to get in trouble. They're definitely rebelling. I also remember she says, like, she needs 40 bucks for the tattoo. I was like wow. Wow, that's so cheap. So they get in a fight, the girls get in a fight. Because basically Sylvie sort of insiduates like, oh, I'm not the type to get a tattoo.

Look, I'm just not the type. What's that supposed to mean? Nothing. Oh, but I am low class, you rich little bitch. With your socially acceptable rebellion. What am I, just another one of your inner city charity cases? Gee, I'm so sorry. What? That you don't have to teach me to read? Must break your heart.

This fight escalates so fast, like instantly. They are being so mean to each other. And the thing I loved about it is when I saw your note, I had just passed that scene and I was like, what fight? Yeah, because it's over almost instantly too. That's how short it was. And the money tug that you mentioned between the father and Ivy, she kind of does it with Sylvie too. But in in this way, she like instantly gets Sylvie to be like, all right, I forgive you fight over. She just melts. Yeah, because Ivy's just so damn cute.

Yep, Yep. So then they get in the truck of this guy, they hitchhike home, OK. Casual. The rebellion continues. And this guy that drives the truck just drinking and driving casually, like turns around. He's like, I got my beer here as I'm driving you guys. Well, Andrew is like Ivy is drinking with him and. Then if there's real that song that plays during this, I think there was like no budget for real music in this movie. A lot of the songs are like the same band and they're they're like fake, you know what I mean?

Like they, they're not songs you'd actually hear on the radio. They. Feel that way? They feel fake. Are you just saying this? Are you saying this? I like looked at the credits, it's the same band quote UN quote. Have they ever released any real music? I didn't go that far with it, but I'm going to guess it. Feels weird, like it does feel low budget, yeah. Totally. Yeah, for sure. I feel like if we put a different soundtrack to this, OK if you're out there and you want to re edit Poison Ivy with better music.

Yeah, I feel like it'd be like Guns and Roses is very of this time and look, but they didn't have the budget for that. Yeah, the score is fine. That part has to stay. It's just the soundtrack. The needle drops need to be real needle drops I think there. You go. So I didn't realize that this scene, because it was in the version I watched, that the scene where Ivy calls Cooper beautiful was not on the VHS. Yeah, this is so weird. So it's a quick little scene. She yeah, she says she's beautiful. It's not on the VHS, it's on the DVD.

But then I remembered on the VHS, I don't think, I don't know if it's in the exact same place or not, but there's a scene on the VHS that's not on the DVD. And hopefully you remember this. But basically, like, Ivy's on the steps of the house inside and the dad comes up the stairs and he's like caught off guard. It's like at night. And he's not wearing his toupee. And he's like all embarrassed that she sees him like that. And she says like, oh, it's OK. I like fuzzy things like snowballs that ringing a bell.

I don't remember that at all. I wonder if we could find it on YouTube? I was just going to say, have you seen it recently or you just? Remember it totally. Just going off memory, Yeah. Oh. My God, I do not remember that. I also had to note that in that part because Cooper says maybe I'll dye my hair blonde and then Ivy says something like you'll look like a stangy hoe. Stangy was just the thing I guess. Something you can help me buy I. Can't feel the words on my tongue and.

Then I just had a note that the mom on the balcony with like the curtains and their nightgown are all blowing all over and the music, it's such a vibe. And I made a note here like, is that one of the theme? Yeah, I feel like that's the mom's theme. Yeah. Sylvie, like, comes in at that point. Well, she thinks her mom is going to jump. She's standing on the balcony and she's kind of thinking about it. You can tell. And Sylvie comes in and, like, gets her down. But yeah, Sylvie's awkwardness with her mom and that scene, it's just, it felt so real and sad.

And you're just like, man, her parents are not there for her. Like, it might look like it to Ivy that she has a mom and a dad and it's so great. But they are both like pretty neglectful and shitty. Yeah, they don't have like good relationships with her. No. So yeah, here we go. We're going to jump to this party that was supposed to be like basically Co hosted with Sylvie. Yeah, and she's. Like excited like when she comes down with her hair in that like low low ponytail. Thing yeah, like almost like a low loose braid with like a red bow in it and she's like a.

Pilgrim dress. And the guy from Head Start comes to the door, like, what are you doing? You're not ready. And then they find out. It's revealed that Ivy has, you know, messed up her schedule. And now she has. To go accidentally. Accidentally, yeah. And here we go. So Ivy's plan worked, but who know? Like what was she thinking was going to happen? I think she just was like, I'll get her out of the house and I'll be here alone. Like I really think that was the plan. And the dad is he's a little too excited when she's like, oh, I'll help out.

I can serve drinks. And then do whatever a little bit too much like smirking and like almost like half winking between them like we got it. Yep, But that appearance in that red sequin dress is so classic. It's so iconic. It's like everything. They pan from feet to head slowly until they get to her face. Yeah, we have to talk about that hair. It's like, so it's so classic 90s. Oh my gosh, every like 1991 through 94 magazine I had like I had a lot of teen and I feel like that French twist was like the epitome of like sophisticated hairstyle and like I couldn't recreate it at all.

I remember trying I. Have always been so bad at updos. Yeah, same. Like it's something that I would love to like. It's such a sophisticated thing. Yeah, like this is one of many. Like like updo? I shouldn't say many, but there are a couple updos that Ivy has that just make her look twice her age. Well, and that's like the first time, right? Like she's got the like perm and the roots all throughout up until now. And now she's like, all of the sudden sort of looking like the mom. Yeah. Like she even says people said I looked like you all night, like I shouldn't have worn your dress.

She's of course being manipulative, but. But yes, they pan up to Drew's face and then she says. Hello Mr. Cooper, care for anything? And then there's that exchange, because he's supposed to be sober and then. Again, another manipulation. But it's like a little play and then it comes back later again. So he like, secretly drinks and yeah. Like she basically gets the ball rolling with that for him. Good job, Ivy. So the party ends and she's like dancing by herself in the shadows and he comes in and she does a little shoulder shimmy and goes over to him and kind of dancing on him I guess.

And then the lights come on and poor Georgie, the mom has like tried to do her hair and get dressed for this party way too late. It's so sad. And she calls it immediately. She's like, oh, I see what's going on here. Like I think she says like so glad Sylvie found herself a little friend or something. Yeah, yeah. And I just, my note was master manipulator because right away that when Georgie comes in, Ivy is able to convince her that he just needed a hug. Yeah. She's like already has the lie ready to go.

And I feel like that's even when she says he really misses. You or something? Yep. It's so devious, so devious and it's such a quick. She came up with that like it was just like so natural for her to be like. Yeah, I got a cover for this. No problem. I'll get out of this one. Don't worry, I got it. Yep. And then, and then, Oh my God. So she gives the mom a drink. Like I'm sure you need this again, like they're by themselves. And she comes in and, you know, she's lurking once again. And almost instantly, Georgie passes out.

The first time I saw this, I thought she killed her. Like I thought she had drugged her drink and killed her because it's so abrupt. She's just goes from like being wide awake to like. And also I can only imagine like she's on a lot of medication and they show her like popping pills every once in a while it seems like secretly. So I'm like, that can't pair well with alcohol. Nope, and I'm sure Ivy knows that. Yep. And she's like, you're right. Like out like almost immediately. And then Ivy just sits on the edge of the bed, casually just lures over the dad, Daryl.

Well, the mom is there right there on the bed. It's so ballsy. She doesn't give a fuck. Like she does not care. And they have like, their first little sexual encounter right there. There's a lot of moaning and heads back and. And saxophone. And lots of saxophone. I couldn't help but notice all the close-ups were her hands. Like she's actually like. And you know, that's not that's weird to point out, but it's not because I feel like I do point out when they aren't, you know, like I noticed. And so I. Was watching for like, is this a double?

And then they like pulled away and it was true. And I was like, wow, she really had to do all this with him. Like all the like rubbing hands through his leg, you know, graying hair. It was it was well done. It was like, but it it felt it's very 90s because of the music. Also like the. Way it's shot. It's like almost grease lens. Yeah, it's very like late night Cinemax. Exactly, Like they're not really showing anything, but it's very implying of like all this like, yeah, stuff. So there's their first encounter right next to sleepy Mom.

Sheesh. So that sets a tone. Yeah, and it also sets a tone. Like, I almost feel like from this point on, I don't think Sylvie knows what's going on, but she starts getting a little resentful of Ivy from here on out. Like they're not really getting along after this. It has to be that she thinks it's just the, you know, related to the schedule. She's I'm sure she's thinking, what did I do to Ivy for her to do that to me intentionally? Yeah. Yeah. I think they show them maybe in bed that night and there is some kind of like she like, shoves her over like, yeah, it's like, that's right subtle at that point.

Oh, she gets home and her dog is sleeping with Ivy, and she's kind of pissed about that because she's very territorial. So the first time we see Fred kind of spending time with Ivy. No, Fred, come here. Poor Fred, we'll get to. That Fred. So the next day they show Ivy, like, go into the garage and she's just sort of poking around and she's getting treats for Fred, which is one of the things you start to understand. Like that's why he likes her so much. Yeah, one of her tricks. Yeah, she's giving him treats, but she's in the garage and she, like, runs her finger along the car.

And there's something so, like, cool and, like, villainous about that to me. Like it feels very like it's plotting. Like this is going to be mine. Exactly like it's a plotting. Thing yeah, she even gets in the car at that point and like, is listening to the radio, right? Yeah, they have this whole thing where, yeah, she like drops the tree on the ground, then goes into the car, finds the key magnetically attached to the bottom of the car and then gets in. So it's a whole like, you know, series of events the dog treat had to lead to her dropping out.

But it also sets up that there will be more stuff, the car and more stuff with the dog. So definitely. And it's like the scenes are actually like, OK, they needed that and. Well, yeah, So Sylvie catches her in the car and she's pissed about it. She's like, why are you in my mom's car? And she's in a bad mood about this Fred thing. So then they get in this fight about the dog, Fred. And at first I was like, this is so dumb, Like, come on. But then she can't help herself. She gets that little competitive like this is all going to be mine.

And she starts. They start basically calling the poor little dog back and forth. Poor Fred.

Go ahead, keep calling him. Fred, OH. Fred. God damn it, Fred, I called you.

Fred, come here. No. Fred, come here. No. Fred come. Here, Fred, I called you. Come here, Fred. Fred, get your fuzzy. Ass over here. It is so. It's so funny, but also like, again, it's telling us something about what the competition is like, feeling like for. Cooper, like, yeah. And then Ivy can't. She can't let her win, so she shakes her. I always love that. She puts her hand in her pocket where the treats are. Does this really set a little shake? And Fred comes over and she's like, yeah, that's right, I won.

And you're just like. And then she's like, good boy. Yeah, that's very villainy too, Yes. Totally. So then it's like this sad, like we're not friends anymore. More of that really. Fake music plays that fake rock and it. Was kind of perfect because it's like a montage and they show like Sylvie walking and then looking at how her tattoo was kneeling because she and her friends are fighting like then she like goes to that place where the where the swing is and I like. Your note, Well, you know, she's like, maybe I can be cool like Ivy and go on the swing and no, I can't do it.

And then he's like, this couple comes and jumps on it. And that the woman always stood out to me like she looks like a gymnast. And also I was like, she's got to be like someone who did stunts on the movie because it's just too like, perfect. And I looked her up and she was a gymnast. So I thought that was really cool. I just made a note. I'm like totally because I read your note and then I looked at it. I was like, she looks like a gymnast flash card. Like what you would say that's a gymnast? Yeah, like she, I feel like she has like a tight ponytail, like strong, strong legs, really short shorts.

Like you can tell she was a very muscular, like body. Oh. We should mention her name, it's Brigitte Shear. I don't know if I'm saying that right, Probably not, but shout out to her for being such an obvious gymnast. And they, like, flip around on the swing like it's no big deal. It's very, very funny. So now, yeah, let's jump into right before the rain in the woods scene. Famous. Yeah, the one that we have more stills in our digital archives from that scene than anything else, which just shows you, like, all the kind of pervy magazines that must have wanted them.

Yep. I digress. So the dad shows up at the school to pick up the girls and he's like harassing Ivy right in front of the school, like in total view of everybody. I'm just like dude bad, look like you are not hiding this well. Yeah, so I think the only reason he can get away with it is because he is Sylvie's dad. Whatever. But yeah, she's Sylvie's not here. Yeah. And then she still gets in the car anyway and. He's sort of, he's just, like, pissed at her because she gives him a look like, oh, are we going to do it?

He's just like, don't. And then he tells her to get out of the car. Yeah. And she doesn't. And he says, you heard me. So. I hurt you. Did I hurt you? And he just like, gives in. But like I said, he's so miserable about this. That is true. That part is weird because, yeah, I mean that part where she's like asking if she hurt him, it's like she just like breaking down all his walls by asking that is that like it's all it was because I was like, what is this? Like it's just, and I almost, it was almost so like, OK, she it seems like he wants her to leave and she's just trying to change the topic.

Yeah, and it works. It works. She does what she wanted. They go hide in the woods in the rain. Of course it's raining. That kind of makes it feel a little bit less weird to you because you feel like he's like, really? Like, like, I just appreciate that he's not like, excited about it. I don't know. Until he's too excited to to turn back. Am I right? Yeah, there are some really cool parts, like pictures of her face. I also love that it's raining. Like, there's some really cool stuff about this scene that has nothing to do with what's actually happening in the scene.

Yeah, well, one of them is, I don't know if your quality was good enough, but I noticed that you can totally see all her ear piercings and you can't see them very often in her life, but you can really see how many she has in that scene. I. Took a lot of screenshots and I think we'd I'd noticed that before because when I saw it again I was like, Oh yeah, I remember this angle and seeing that it's something about the light, like the way it's hitting her. Yeah, maybe that's what it is. All right, so they have their little their little encounter in the woods.

All the magazines loved it. The the setting is cool. True, true. And that's where the, I think that's where the body double was used. That was the. Same. Yeah, that makes sense. OK, so we cut back to the house later on and once again the mom is sort of doing her little balcony wishing I could jump, but I'm not gonna jump thing. I love Drew in the pink slip she's wearing. It's like, I don't know if it's slip, but it's like got that vibe to it. It's like silky. And for sure. It's such a pretty color on her with her hair color in that scene.

I just have always loved it. Like I love photos from it, which are few and far between. Yeah. She does look gorgeous in that. I just love this scene. I think that Drew plays this really well. Like you don't really get the sense that Ivy went in there. Like, I'm going to go kill the mom now. It's just the opportunity shows up and before she even realizes what she's doing, she pushes her off the balcony and she instantly looks freaked out. Like holy shit, what did I just do? Like I really appreciate that, that that's sort of what she's talking about And all these descriptions of Ivy, like there's shading, right, Like we like Ivy.

We're not she's not just one-dimensional evil slut, like, you know, homicide of slut as Drew Calder. She, she's not like feeling great about what she did and she's really freaked out. And I just, I love her faces in those scenes, those expressions where you can really tell all the things she's going through. You're right. Yeah. And it's sort of, I guess we can think of it as like the dad feels bad about the shitty things he's he's doing. And you can also see some room, like whatever, some emotion on her face.

Yeah, but she's she literally kills the mom. Yeah, so let's not sugar coat it. She still did a really bad thing. But it also was like, yeah, it could be easily covered up by the fact that the mom has sort of not threatened, flirted with this, Yeah, flirted with jumping off. And she, I think Sylvia has seen her, like standing really close to the edge. And they don't show anything. They don't show the mom's body. But then you see Sylvie come in and then she goes downstairs. We just have to like, imagine in case she found her.

And they jump to the funeral, where Drew, again, like, looks amazing, but looks like she's about 40. She's got like that French braid going on, Yeah. Yes, I was going to say like there's an updo happening. I feel like her dress is like it's black but it's got like strappy, like it's kind of sexy. Yeah, Also, yeah, I've always liked that part too. Anytime she looks like very different, like 1 little scene where it's like, oh, she never looks like that in the rest of the movie. I guess those are things always like catch my interest.

Yep. And then after the funeral, I totally forgot that Ivy just like, goes and sleeps in the mom's bed right off the bat. Actually the balls on this girl. And then she gets caught by Coop again. A great Sarah Gilbert delivery. In. My mother's bed, I just love it. Right after that they just start to snuggle in bed together. Yeah, because of course Ivy, like again gets out of it. And then just like insists that Sylvie pretends that she's her mom and talk to her. And there's something like that feels like to say things, say the things to me that you're you couldn't say to your mom when she was alive.

Like there's something like she is being a friend, but she's also like, I'm literally in your mom's bed, probably wearing your mom's clothes. I wanted to talk to her again,

tell her stuff. Before she died.

Tell me. What? Pretend I'm her. Come on, I'm your mom. I don't know what to say. Well, what couldn't you say to me? Come on. I'm Georgie. And I think she even, like, responds as if she's her. Oh yeah, totally. It's sad, it's intense. OK, at what point does like good friendship become? It's just way overstepping. This is it, Yeah. Great way to put it. Then we get the classic car crash scene. So once again, we're back to the car. This time, Cooper's like, washing it. And she's like, thinking about her mom.

And like, that would be a nice way to honor her, I guess, is by washing this car that meant so much to her. And then Ivy shows up like, she's like, looming in the background, like, come on, let's go for a ride, all three of us. And when they get in the car, I loved that. I just love because I love rain. But so does Drew. So. So Cooper basically just like says it might rain. And Ivy's response, one can always hope. I just liked like, I mean, we we know she liked to do it in the rain. There's yeah, you're right.

There's a lot of there's a lot of rain in this. I also think she's like embodying the mom Georgie in some way because she knows she loves to drive with the top down so she's like really wants to become this woman. True. And she also like it seemed like she, like you, like we said early, she was taking notes and collecting sort of like this fantasy person. Yeah. And then kind of becoming her. Yeah. It's really well done. I really, I really like this movie still. I was like, oh, I haven't watched in a while.

Is it going to hold up? It holds up. Yeah, it it is like Drew's acting is strong. The storyline could be worse. Like there, at least there's a storyline. Yeah. It's a little, it's low budget, it's a little cheesy, but like it works. It's good. It's it knows what it is and it's really good at it. It's true. That's true. I always loved Drew in this orange dress. You called it Marigold, which I think is even a better way to describe it. Yeah, 'cause it's like almost like got a lot more yellow in it, but Marigold is like a light orange.

Yeah, it's like a very specific orange. And I didn't double check it, but I mentioned earlier, I'm pretty positive this is what the mom is wearing in the picture with the car that you see at the beginning. So it's again, she noted it. She's like, I'll wear that later when I kill her and we go around with her urn. Yeah, but it is such a good dress. Oh and so like thoughtful that it has the cut out on the chest which comes into play later. Like Great touch. Yeah, exactly right where a steering wheel would hit approximately.

I was laughing during So Ivy drives and I was laughing because I feel like she drives kind of similarly to how we always hear Drew does what she even says in that clip we listened to earlier. She got her license taken away on this movie. Yep, while I was watching that part which see you mentioned the stunt driver later, but you can definitely see like every time they show the back, it's like that's not true. But but also I'm like where did they film this? Because it really feels like a Canyon Rd.

like in LA. Like it could be like any Canyon roads. Like I want to look it up but I'm so curious. Maybe Lindsay can get to that one for us, yeah. I don't think that when Ivy is supposed to be singing the melody of the piano, I don't think it's Drew doing it. I don't either. It doesn't sound like it's so weirdly over, like that's not true. But also like you and tell they were like don't make it sound perfect, but it didn't. It just did not sound like drill. Like if it was it was Drew. I could just see her like over and over trying and they're just like we're.

Going to get it. We're going to get somebody to dub that one.

Also, I noticed Speaking of her voice that it crackles when she starts yelling at Cooper and it reminded me of how you love that part in Mad Love where she screams and come on, she was about to kill herself. She must have said something.

Tell me what my? Mother said I want to hear you're accusing me of something. Why did you do something? Everybody else that's blaming me, I thought you were different. I thought that we were real friends. It sounds so much like it. Like right away I was like hearing that mad love scene in my. Head like it's just another little tidbit we get of what life was like before this for her. She's being way overly defensive to this thing and yelling and being very and making her drive more dangerously. Yeah, and then like I had to crack up because again, this is probably the best quality I've ever watched this movie.

And you can totally see the stunt drivers face. And so like, I paused it. I accidentally paused it and they sent it to you. I was like, this is so creepy. It's like not true at all. And I looked at the stunt driver. Her name is Debbie Evans. She does a ton of stunt driving. And randomly enough, she did stumps for Demi Moore in Charlie's Angels Full Throttle. So cool. I love that people always like come back around. Hollywood's a small place. Yeah. And when people are in industry and they're good, they stick in the industry for a while.

That's yeah, that's true. I don't know if you noticed this but I feel like I used to notice this a lot when so they they crash the car and Ivy wakes up and her hair is like tucked behind and you can't see the full length of it and it's perfectly tucked exactly at the length it is in. Gun crazy. Like she looks straight out of gun crazy. We'll have to pull one of your caps for that one. I don't. I haven't noticed that before, but I love when that stuff happens, when it's like when things are cropped to just her face and it's like, oh, that's.

That looks just like this. But like, how close did Ghost film together? Really close. It's. Probably a matter of maybe months. Like maybe even shorter than that. I'd been crazy back-to-back. Yeah, it's pretty neat to think about. Oh, I can't wait to talk about gun crazy. One day we'll get there. Yeah, we will. So now let's get into when, after the car crash, Sylvie just has to escape from the hospital. I mean, OK, so yeah. So her dad comes to visit her in the hospital. Such a jerk. Such a jerk. He's just like pissed at her for crashing the car.

No concern for her well-being like she has a concussion. Like, but he thinks that she was driving because Ivy, the master manipulator, put her in the driver's seat. So I guess we got to just take that step back and about that, the fact that that happened, we just kind of bowled over it because if you've you've seen the movie, we're just talking about it. That's right. So, so I'm just like, why does why does she have to escape the hospital like? I think most we know she's like hallucinating and a little delirious, right?

She keeps seeing her mother everywhere. And she knows now that Ivy might be responsible for her mom's death. So there's a sense of urgency of like, I have to go get her, I guess. But she's not making a lot of sense because she's totally out of it. Yeah, because then she gets there and then sees her mom's. Well, let's talk about how she gets there first of all. Yeah, I forgot how long this escape goes on. I'm like, she's like going in the elevator and she's sneaking past the nurses and she's in like an alleyway it.

Had like that parts of it felt like when they're escaping in mad love, when they're escaping the mental institution, like going around like here staff and they're like sneaking by. Totally. It's funny how, like, probably because Drew's not in that part. It's just, like, isn't in my memory as much. So I was like, wow, this is like, goes on forever. Yeah, Yeah. But I did always love the goth dude that picks up Sylvie. She's like sitting in the rain. I'm very curious about him. Like I'm like, is that guy like actually like a musician?

He just like he loves. Himself, he's credited as death Rocker.

I also didn't realize that he like gives her clothes because she comes home and she's not in the gown. Yeah, he even says like. Like I stole those. I hope you enjoy. I hope you enjoy the digs. I stole those two or something like that. But I just didn't even think about it because that's not the focus in the scene. Because Wham, she comes home and finds her dad and Ivy, but she's imagining that it's her mother being like railed by her dad. By the piano. On the piano. But I was also like, wait, this is supposed to be Drew?

And I thought this was the part with the body double because it's Cheryl Ladd. Yeah. And then they like, you know, she turns around and it's Ivy, and she realizes that Sylvia's there and. She's walking in on her old dad's butt too. It's brutal. Poor Sylvie. Yep, and she just like is slowly continues to walk in because she thinks she's seeing her mom. Because she can't believe what she's seeing. Yeah. So she runs out. Of course, Dad has to go chase her. Pouring rain. Pouring rain at this park, of course.

So we'll explain why. But I was trying to figure out if pretty much at this point, when Ivy runs out after him, if this is where she's actually wearing a wig. It's wet because of the rain, but I started looking for it here, and I did feel like her layer length seemed a little off. So I don't know if this is where it starts or not, but that was my guess. The cool thing is that Elle magazine they did a feature on Drew in 1991. It's not a covered feature but they were on set during this scene and they know about how Drew is like freezing, which of course she's always cold so I can only imagine with all this rain on her.

But she looks beautiful. I mean, if there's any, you know, like the scene turned, the scene turned out good. I just had to notice. So sad that Sylvia keeps hallucinating. I know she thinks her dog is like the urn with her mom's remains. And it's very sad, yes, but I feel like goes up to the room, the mom's room. Oh, because the dad's going to go drive and look for Sylvie. That's why. So she's like, I'll just go upstairs and put on more of mom's clothes, going to put on this robe because that's what I do now.

And Sylvie comes in and again, thinks that she's seeing her mom. It's actually Ivy. And then this is when the kiss happens, the big overblown kiss. Is there a kiss? Earlier in the movie too. Or was I just like waiting for the big? I don't know, I think. There's like a very brief like Peck, but this is the like tongues and we just went for it and, you know, over and over again it's spoken about and it's so not a big deal. It's pretty mild. By today's standards. Yeah, but also when they're, when was it in movie line 92?

Yeah. A lot about. It so I think they're they're kind of saying like how embarrassed they felt like the crew was because they were going all for it. So I guess we were getting like the behind the scenes of what they were filming and what they actually cut to us is like, all right, that's mine. So who knows? She also talks about it in some like TV interviews. So I mean, this was just a different time where that was a huge deal. And it's so doesn't it's like nothing now. Girls kissing. Can you imagine it's?

Like one second of screen time. Yeah, it's. Very little, yeah. OK, so we're at the end. Originally, the character of Ivy was written to live at the end of the movie. She's supposed to get away with it all. It was going to have her leaving the Cooper's house at the end and hitch hiking. To quote, this is from Cat Shea. Find her next victim, which is, you know, and you almost wonder, has she done something like this before? Maybe not committed murder, but infiltrated herself into somebody's life. And Cat Shea fought for that ending, that New Line Cinema decided that Ivy needed to die, she needed to pay.

So This is why they had to do reshoots. Like apparently they didn't even film an ending at first, according to Cat Shay. So they had to reshoot months later. Drew had already cut her hair for Gun Crazy and that's why there had to be a wig. Apparently it was a very expensive wig, she said. So just that's like a pretty cool thing to think about. It's crazy that they would have wrapped the film without like an ending. Yeah, but I mean, who knows, maybe they were just like, if we have to end it vaguely with her just disappearing, you know, like he knows what they thought.

But that also, that's just, it's so interesting that I wonder how much studios can dictate endings. Like we hear stories of studios doing it. I mean especially like. I think this is Cat. She's directorial debut. OK, so like, she didn't probably have any power to, you know, get the ending she wanted, which is sad. I like the ending, you know? Yeah, me too. Even though I'm. I'm always bummed that she dies because that damn necklace, which always looks so cheap to me, That necklace. It's funny that they make such a big deal out of it.

Yeah, it also. Kind of looks like the Like Titanic necklace, doesn't it? Yeah, the blue sparkling, Totally. But yeah, the damn deck necklace does her in. She's holding on to it and it breaks because it's cheap. It sure does and looks cheap. Yeah, when that scene was coming up, of course I thought of when we talked to Lee Waddell. Yeah, in our Scream episode, when we'll explain why. Lee Waddell, who's a stuntman, he was, he participated in her death stunt in this, like Drew landing on the ground from the balcony.

And he said that she, like, did it so many times that it made him uncomfortable, right? Didn't he say something to that effect? But the reason it's relevant there's not bringing him up, It's because he would later be the stuntman who would be Ghostface when Drew was being killed in Scream. Which we didn't even know when we interviewed him for our Scream episode. It's our episode 10. I saw that he had done stunts, some Poison Ivy, and I was so excited to talk to him about it. But when we found out he's like the one that does her death in both, I'm like, that's pretty cool.

What a weird thing to claim to fame. Yeah, that was so cool. Yeah, so that's a really fun if you guys want to hear that. We also have the full uncut interview with him on our YouTube if you want to check that out. Oh yeah, that's right. But man, she really does smack the ground with her face and I'm just like, she is a trooper. She's so professional and gets it done because man, it looks painful. Yeah, and I made a note because in her hand is the sparkling gem, that she's a gold digger till the end.

At the heart of the ocean.

Perfect little bow on Miss Poison Ivy. And that's our. Movie The beginning and end of her story. We do, we do end with Cooper's voice over saying like, I think I'll always love her, Like, you know, which I think is cool because what a complicated thing for that, that Parker, all the trauma she just went through.

Yep. Hope you're OK Coop, wherever you are. Yep and yeah, she literally watches her fall off the balcony and breaks the necklace that she's wearing. Trauma trauma trauma young girl. I miss her. All right, so let's talk about the release and the legacy of Poison Ivy. So this iconic film. Yeah, the red carpet premiere was in LA on May 4th. Drew attended with Jamie Walters, her boyfriend slash fiance at the time, and her mother Jade was there too. Sharon Stone went to that premiere, which I always thought was cool.

You know, they did irreconcilable differences together, right? Like, do you ever? I always forget that. I think. I think it's Sharon Stone's debut. I totally forget that because the timeline seems wrong. Totally. Yeah. And they're not in a lot of scenes together, but I always kind of like thinking that she was like there to support Drew. And she's also, you know, also this movie in a lot of like, marketing was like Basic Instinct and, you know, you know, very what Sharon Stone was representing at that time.

So I just think it was like a show of support. And I like it, yeah. I love that. And I, yeah, I love that somebody with clout like that would come and like, support. Yeah, 'cause I think she's the only other person of note that I've ever seen that went. And Sara Gilbert, of course, was there too. I don't even know if Tom Skerritt or Cheryl. I've never seen photos of them there. I don't know but I can picture Sharon Stone. She's wearing like a big T-shirt. I feel like it's a shame. Yeah, yeah. We'll have to share some photos very early.

90s So the movie opened on a pretty limited release. This is pretty common for indie films. So it opened in the LA and New York on May 8th of 1992, so just a few days after the premiere. Yeah, and I don't even think it ever got got a wide release. So did not do successfully in the theatrical release, but it makes up for it. We'll get to that. Drew did do a ton of press for this. This was her big comeback. Like this is the first thing that really put her back on the map as this like adult ish teen vixen sexy bad girl what she would be for the next few years.

Yeah, it definitely was one of her renaissances, as I like to. Say it really really was she went on like Arsenio Hall, Dennis Miller shows there was magazines like we mentioned movie line, us Interview, Venice like there's so many magazines from this era if you want to check those out we have a great 1992 magazine page on the Drusium and there's all kinds of good content there for. You to good old self promotion for the Drusium. Should I play this little clip from one of the press conversations?

I I like the shock. It's incredible to see the response that people are having towards this film, let alone seeing me doing the things that I do in this film. When they think of me as a little girl, I'm not a little girl anymore. Yeah, you kind of are though. And she looks like a baby, yeah. So yeah, a couple of reviews, which I always like reading. So Peter Travers for Rolling Stones, said Barrymore nails every carnal comic and vulnerable shading in her role. She's a knockout. Beautifully said.

Carnal is such a good word too. Yeah, yeah. And then this is kind of a longer one, but it's really great from us, which us, not us, you and I, before Us Weekly, there was just us and that's what it was called. And. It was a great magazine and I miss it till to this day. They said Poison Ivy's big draw is Drew Barrymore, all grown up and weathered before her time. She plays a lonely, lethal Lolita looking for some company. On her dead end trip to nowhere, Barrymore gives a terrifically frank and sexy performance.

The 17 year old actress is notorious for her drug downfall and recovery, and the experience shows. With trashy confidence, she pulls her lips into a heart-shaped pout and struts around like she owns the earth. Her every move cries too much too soon. Yeah, it's a good one. Also that, of course, is her great Aunt Diana's autobiography title, Too Much Too Soon. That's right. That's a good review. It's a great one. Wow. I just, like, I'm like every line has some kind of. I like the trashy, trashy confidence.

Wow. Cool. Thank you for pulling those. That's right. The film later gained cult status through video and cable releases. So, yeah, even though it didn't have its big theatrical release, you know, Splash. Drew definitely got recognition for this, and people remember her for this role. Like I think that people at the time. And then for Ruby's, it's like iconic. Yeah, it's. Definitely one of the biggies. Like as I said at the beginning, it's one of those like, oh, Poison Ivy is the big deal. And there are some sequels.

As we mentioned, they didn't have Cache's involvement at all. In 1996, there was Poison Ivy 2. Lily starred Alyssa Milano. She's this girl that finds Ivy's diary and tries to to be like her. And that's where I was like her name wasn't Ivy. So I'm out like cuz it's supposed to be like before she went to the Cooper's house. It's so silly. In 1997 there was Poison Ivy, the new seduction with Jamie Presley. And I guess she's Ivy's little sister, Violet. OK. And then I guess I didn't even know this. In 2008, there was Poison Ivy, The Secret Society, a Lifetime movie.

I know. I think I tried to read the summary and it was like gibberish. And I just. Yeah. Yeah. So this is this. Our interest is primarily in Drew Barrymore's 1992 Poison Ivy, directed by Cat Shay. The only one that matters, yeah. But it is fascinating that there has somehow been like an expanded universe. Franchise. Character that was made-up and the name it's. Yeah. It totally just turns its Canon upside down. It doesn't make any sense. Yeah. And this very last thing, I don't remember this at all.

Oh, interesting. OK, so there was a fashion brand called Unif UNIF, and they did a whole line inspired by Poison Ivy in 2012 for their summer summer line and their marketing campaign for it is incredible. They got this blonde girl and this brunette girl. They both have huge curly hair and they're wearing very inspired by the time clothes. From what I recall. There was like a YouTube video, I don't even think it exists anymore that showed all of the images and they had like the line, the voice over from the movie kind of going throughout based on this like screenshot I have here.

Yeah, wow. I have like no recollection. It's really neat. They did a great job. It's like perfectly inspired. It's not like a direct, you know, cosplay, but you look at it and you're like, got it. I know what they're going for here. Yeah, it's like supposed to be exactly like how she's sitting when she's sunbathing. Yeah, it's really good. We'll share photos from. Them. Yeah, that's really neat. So here we are at the end of our Poison Ivy episode. Oh my God, we did it. I can't. Believe we did it.

I'm so excited. We've been talking about it for a while. This, this was, yeah, this is an important one. It also, it's like, I don't know what I was going to say train of thought I was trying to figure out how to wrap it up. You've just been rendered speechless by the beauty and the evil charisma of Ivy. Yeah. I have, I just I don't know what to say anymore. Go jump off a balcony. You're done. Anyway, we hope you guys like this. This was, I'm like thrilled to be releasing this episode. This has been in the works and there's a lot of love that we have for it.

And you know, I didn't go too much on my like, this is uncomfortable. She's a teenager. Yeah. Ramp this time. I feel like I'm trying to rein that in. And again, like, I didn't feel it as much as I expected to because of the way the material was handled, which I really appreciate. Yeah, it's, it's cool to like try to find that lens. It's like, yeah, we, we almost like expect to feel it, right? So like you're almost like what can help me not feel it with this? But great movie, I'm so happy to revisit it, I still love it.

Yeah. And again, I'd like the one thing I will say coming out of it as like be wanting to be protective of Drew as the individual that person is like said that she said she felt safe on the set. So we can come out of this going like she did do this, like stuff that was questionable for a teenager, but Drew felt safe. And that's what's important. And it very much felt like her decision through and through, so hopefully she never felt exploited. Yeah. And yeah, Drew. So thank you guys. I hope you enjoyed this as much as we did.

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