044 – Firestarter (1984) & Cat's Eye (1985): Young Drew Barrymore's Collaborations with Steven King - How Do You Drew

All right, Hello and welcome to How do You Drew? This is a Drew Barrymore podcast brought to you by the drewsium.com. It's sponsored by our friends at Positive Medium. I'm Anne. And I'm Ashley. And hello. Hello. Welcome to episode 44. You know, I love a double number. I do too. I realize like you like like a one one because of your birthday. I like a one one because my birthday's in November, so we both like a 11 a little bit in there. And we like a 22. I don't know why. Why would we like a 22? I don't know.

We'll think about that and get back to you. I'm going to go ahead and jump into our It's kind of a noopsie Daisy, kind of a follow up. So our previous episode was about our favorite magazine covers. And when we talked about one of my favorites, the Harper's Bazaar 1996 cover shot by Peter Lindbergh, we kind of briefly mentioned that we. I thought he was famous photographer. Yeah. So I wanted to just say he did do another photo shoot with Drew. In 2007, for Bizarre, it was a cover. Shoot, totally forgot that they shot that one on the Empire State Building.

Oh yeah, that's right. It's really rad. He unfortunately passed away in 2019, and he was a famous German fashion photographer who kind of helped usher in the supermodel era in the 1990s. So I was like, that's pretty. Cool. That is cool. Yeah, So I just wanted to follow up because I thought, like, when she works with a legend, when a legend works with a legend, I feel like we gotta bring it up. Beautiful. Yes. All right. So what did you pull out for our mail this week? OK, so we're still catching up on all the reviews that you lovely people have been nice enough to leave on Apple Podcast.

This one actually comes from Apple Podcast Philippines. Oh cool. This comes from Christian, who is a big follower of all of the things we do. Yes. So Christian, thank you for leaving us. And Christian said, hi guys. You know what? This podcast is great. You guys are wonderful. It's always on the point. Although Oopsie Daisy's come out in the next episode, it just shows we're always going to come out there and say the truth. Then they say this pod feels like one of those fan sites that gives news to an actress, but weekly and in the form of a podcast.

Because our girls always working and always has everyday news. Truly one of our kind. Except for right now. Except for right now. And then they continue. I hope to herself knows that you guys made this for her. Yeah, her, but also for us. True. Yes. And then they said maybe she's been listening for the last year. Like, I don't know. We'll see. Keep it up. Do what you do to preserve Drew and her family's history. Love you. Thank you. Christian That was really nice and I'm glad to have our international fans coming up and giving us some nice words.

What do we have for this week in Drew History? OK, this week in True History there weren't a lot of exciting things, but I did notice that on July 11th, 1997, hey, that's my half birthday by the way. She was filming Ever After, and there's some really cool photos of her in Angelica, Houston. Presumably doing some sort of interview. And I remember Kim Green pointed out that she was in one of the pictures, which is fun. And yeah, it's just wild to think how much time has passed since they filmed that movie.

God. Yeah, no kidding. And Speaking of Angelica Houston, someone I know was just at her house recently. Someone I know in LA. When I saw this picture in here, I was like, whoa, trip. That's really wild. I don't think of Angelica Houston much. Did you hear anything about it like? I mean nothing specifically, but of course it's a beautiful, amazing house. So yeah, and we heard that during ever after she threw all kinds of amazing parties. So hopefully. Yes, yes. And as far as I know, it's a nice place to have parties.

Cool. Very cool, I love. How she looks in Ever After and all those photos of her on set are so cute, I'm sure we'll share one just to show our this weekend through history. Poll Yeah, we'll share the pictures taken that day. All right, so we're ready for our weekly topic. Yeah, we're covering 2 movies. So like, let's go, let's jump in. We're going to talk about Firestarter and Cat's Eye, and it's kind of obvious why these are going to go together. Billy. Billy. OK, so a couple things that these two films have in common.

Which is kind of a cool reason to pair them together. Maybe obvious to some of you, but maybe not so obvious. So both Firestarter and Cat's Eye were written by Stephen King, produced by Idina De Laurentiis. They used a lot of the same crew members, including Drew Standen. More on that to come. Both the films were filmed in Wilmington, NC, which has become kind of a more common filming location since then. Has been used in more than 300 films and TV shows since then, so that's pretty cool. And Firestarter was the first, so they like started this whole trend of filming there, which is really neat.

Amazing. So cool. I know, particularly I know what you did last summer. And Empire records were filmed there, which were two of my 90s faves, so of course I knew that. Very cool. Okay, Let's start with Firestarter, because that came out first. So you know I love a bad IMDb summary. Yeah, so I'm going to read this one. A couple who participated in a potent medical experiment gain telepathic ability and then have a child who is pyrokinetic. I like the word potent. I just think it's funny because it's like, it's not really about the couple.

The whole movie is about the child and like, being on the run from the government. Where's that part? And then have a child. Yeah, it's like an afterthought. Yeah, the end of the film is when they have a child who is on fire, it sounds like. Yes, yes. So let's get into the production a little bit. Let's do it. So I guess Drew supposedly has seen the book fire starter at a grocery store. And when she saw the little girl in the cover, she said that's me, I'm Charlie McGee, so tell me your story. Well, I was just curious if you've ever read the book.

I have not. Okay. I actually remember in summer 2000 going to a used bookstore and they had the version with Drew on the cover and I bought it, read it over that summer, and it took me a really long time to read, I remember, which is unusual for me. OK, but I liked it, I think. I don't know. I was just curious if you ever read it. I have not read it. I have a copy of it. I have a copy of her on the cover. But I'm not a great reader, just in general, So I have many, many books I have not read. Yeah.

I wouldn't say get into this one. That took me forever to read. I think you're good that the movie I just love that supposedly drew manifested this part for herself. I had to take it with a grain of salt if it's true or not, but it's fun to think about. I think she tells that story in a behind the scenes video. She said something like about telling her mom and I went, I'm the first daughter, I'm telling my D. So, according to Little girl loss, she had tested for the part. And then she like read the book again all night long.

But she was so excited. And then she tested again. And then yeah, I know, like she read it in a night. It took me like 3 months to read. Anyway, so she tested again. And then 20 minutes later they supposedly got the call that she had the role, which is pretty fun. So there was a quote. From a magazine from 1984 when the film came out that said. Sometimes like if I have to light a candle or something, I think wow, it would be really neat to be that little girl in real life. And actually Speaking of that, there is a part of the film which would like we'll get into the film a little bit later, but where the like lights go out and I thought that Charlie was going to like find a candle and like light a candle.

Oh, that would have totally made sense. But I guess she was trying not to use her power at that point. Yeah, I don't know. Or maybe they didn't want to, like, give her access. Well, she could have put anything on fire. OK, never mind. Hole. No. Yeah. Don't want to be that person before we get a little more into the filming. So I have, and I just got this, I think in the last year or so, I have a director's chair back with Drew's name on it. And there's one on the set of fire started that we've seen and it doesn't match that perfectly, but it does match in terms of color and font and like it's definitely from the production.

Although I was thinking also maybe it could be from Cat's Eye if like the same crew was doing everything. No kidding. But there's even like her standin's chair back look who's exactly like the one I have. So it's just really neat. It's definitely like a piece that I'm really excited about having so. I mean the one that you're. Watching. Maybe it was caught on fire. There you go, They had to make a new one. It was the replacement that's not photographed. I love that. OK, so the filming for Fire Starter began September 12th, 1983 and ended November 26th, 1983.

First I wanted to ask you like how do we know these exact dates? Production materials and magazines and stuff. I just, I always take note whenever I come across something like that. We have a spreadsheet of the dates that drew film stuff, and so anytime I come across one, I just throw it in there. I love that we have like, to the day. It's so cool, yeah. Drew and Jade packed up their life, basically, and rented a house in North Carolina in a city called Echo Park. Yeah, I was thinking like, that's pretty much probably the whole beginning of a school year.

And I wonder how disruptive that was. You know, we already know she was having trouble with going to school and all that. Yep, that's. True. And so the shooting schedule was grueling for Drew because she was, you know, she's little. She was. Quick math, 8 years old and she's in almost every scene and apparently a lot of the filming would start at sunset and go through the night. There are a lot of night scenes. So you know, she was like sleeping during the day and she had to do the onset school and all of that stuff.

So it's a lot to put on one tiny little girl. Yeah, no kidding. It's no wonder she started drinking.

I'm. Sorry, I love you, Drew. She'd probably say the same thing herself, actually. Should probably appreciate that joke. We'll get back to when she started drinking, because it's right around this time. The special effects were pretty scary and pretty dangerous. I mean, I was like noticing just when watching the film, I was like, this is nuts. Like the amount of fire and explosions. Yeah, it seems like not a huge effort was made to ensure she was safe. There are like stories about fire chips flying around without glass protecting her pieces of metal like.

On fire, like falling on her. And she just went along with it. I mean, does she talk about being scared? Oh yeah, So she talks about that and little girl lost. And then I found this quote from a magazine called Star Log where she said, I said wait a minute, I'm not going to do this. But they said, come on, it's not going to be that bad. So I did it, but I almost got burnt. It wasn't funny. Aye, aye, aye. No, it's not. It's so like so of the time though, right? Yeah, I mean, absolutely. And apparently I saw another article where a magazine was on set during filming and Drew had said to the director, Mark Lester, I just want to remind you Mark, I can't see you over the flames.

Oh my God. Yeah, yeah. And then, of course, her and her stand in. And again, we'll get into that. They were like terrified watching these stunt guys be set on fire right in front of them, it's just like a very kind of surprised that they had, they allowed them to watch. I mean, there's movie making. They could have filmed the reaction separately, right? That's true. I did have a thought when I was like, thinking about the fact that there are so many scenes that are just her face. Yeah, like she just had to be reacting.

And in that, behind the scenes, I'm just going to mention that again. There's a part where like. The director is like yelling what's happening at Drew, like, and another car blows out and she's like, you know, probably like changing the intensity on her face. Anyway, just Speaking of like, maybe she had to kind of use those images of men on fire to help her intensity. I don't know. Anyway, so Drew really enjoyed being on set with George C Scott and he is an amazing actor. I do find him a bit creepy in this.

I mean, maybe for a good reason. Yeah, we'll get into that. So Drew was a bit scared of him until she saw how sweet he was with his dog, which that's so on brand for her. And I totally understand that. Like, as a judge of character, Yeah, I love it. And then she also says that he gave her some of the best advice, which was just forget about the camera and do your job. And I've heard that kind of advice for actors before. It's like, just act naturally. Yeah, just. Say the lines like you're saying them and you thought of them, like there we go.

So that's kind of amazing. So good job, George C Scott. Cool that he would talk to her like, you know, as an equal, I'm sure. I love that she did that. Yeah. She also formed a close relationship with Stephen King. He would like, tell all the kids on set scary stories. And she said that he would talk to her about, like music and TV and food, and it made her feel appreciated and loved. You know, this is a reoccurring theme in her life, right? We're. On a movie set, she's getting this where she doesn't get a normal life.

And then she also spent two weeks out of his house in Maine before the movie premiered and got to, you know, be with his family, which she loves. Is so cool. I mean, if if y'all don't know if you're listening. I live in Maine. Currently I'm from California, but I live in Maine and I I know big fans of Stephen King like go visit his house because he's not like these gates that are like creepy gates. Like it's very clear where he lives and I wonder. If it's the same house. There's a picture in our notes of her standing in front of it, so you can tell it's the same, but how close are you to it?

I think it's a couple of hours away, but relatively close. So people have said to me, you know, after moving here like, oh, do you like Stephen King? And I actually have not read. I'm going to say I haven't read any of his books. Maybe I should start with Firestarter, maybe not. Maybe not. One of the real highlights though for working on both Fire Starter and Cat's Eye was the friendship that Drew developed with her stand and Jennifer Ward. I do see that you note here that there was another Stand and who wasn't really mentioned, but we have a photograph of her, so you want to talk about what you found when you looked her up.

Yeah, well, I just thought I was like, oh, that's so interesting. You never hear about Don Carmen. I looked her up just randomly and unfortunately I found that she'd been arrested a few years ago and she wasn't looking so great. So not sure what happened there, but maybe they weren't, you know, obviously the friendship was really formed with Jennifer. Yeah, maybe they just needed an extra stand in for a few days and she just happened to be a second stand. Could be, could be, Yeah. The the girls, Drew and Jennifer Ward were close in age.

Jennifer Ward had like a very normal. Quote UN quote, normal family life with a mom, dad and brother who went to church and ate meals at a table together and Drew really, like, wanted that. You know? We've talked about her life a lot, so I think she craved that kind of stability. She spent as much time as possible at their house and would pretend she was part of the family. So sweet. I know. I mean, I remember these parts in the book. Yeah. She tells like, fun ghost stories about their house supposedly being haunted.

The little girl lost. Yeah, And then this is really sweet. This was in that same Star Log article. She said she was the best friend I've ever had. I miss her so much. I spent more time with her than my own mom. They're like a real family should be. I didn't want to leave there. My gosh, I know. That's like. I know, pretty devastating. We know that she had this experience with film sets where she kind of would like. Had this family and then it would end, and then she had this family and it would end.

So she'd like this is an early example of that. This is a perfect example. And then I always assumed so. There's a short story at the end of the US March 1997 feature, a short story that Drew wrote and she talks about. This family and have a little girl had this nightgown that she always wanted. She wanted to be in this girl's life, and I always assumed that was about the Ward family. That makes sense. So we'll link to that. And what episode did we talk about that magazine again? Okay. So we talked about that in episode 15, if you want to go listen to that.

Yes, and that's one of our favorite magazine articles anyway. So if you haven't listened to it, and as we kind of mentioned, she was devastated to have to leave them at the end of the shoot and she actually pleaded to stay. So I'd love to think of her like reconnecting with that person, like later in life, because I don't think we've heard of any stories since. But she definitely had this bond with her. Yeah, and then we just have to mention, so the cast and crew wrap party, that is where Drew first had alcohol.

She had bet some crew members that she could drink 2 glasses of champagne. And wonderfully, they just said, yeah, let's do that. Sounds great. If you're 8 years old, that sounds great, yeah. Great adults there and Drew passed out and Jade told her to stay away from that, which we know she didn't listen to. Yeah, you know, she wasn't listening to her mom very much at that time. And maybe in some ways she was right. But in this case, yeah, right.

So now let's jump into the film a bit. We're just going to kind of hop back and forth little notes we made. I'll just say this was a fun film to rewatch. Yeah, I like, hadn't seen it in so long. There were a lot of tidbits I didn't remember except for a couple of quotes that like you and I say of course so, but I did enjoy it. That in general, did you? Okay. Yeah. I was going to say, like, I enjoyed seeing it from a like, kind of drew historian perspective. She's in so much of it that that's really enjoyable.

There's a lot of, like, kind of cringy, bad acting. And there is, there's a bit of that, but overall. I think it's pretty enjoyable. I will just jump ahead and say I kind of like cats, I'm more. Only for the reason that it seems to really embrace. It's like cheesy campiness with fire starter. It's like very taking it very seriously. Yeah. And when we get to that, like, I'll explain like one part of Cat's Eye I think is better than fire starter, but the other two parts make it not as good. Yeah. So we'll get into that a little bit more later.

But glad we're giving ourselves an excuse to rewatch it, basically. Definitely, yeah. That's a great way of putting it. And the first note I made was just, it's really like classic like early DVD's is when you put the menu on, there's like firecracker sound effects in the back. It just made me laugh because it's so cheesy. I DVD menus are such a like classic thing in general, like, you know, like with them having music, I feel like I've fallen asleep to enough films over the years where the that just goes over and over again the DVD menu.

Totally know what you mean.

So I was just thinking as the movie starts and you know that her mom has died, that there was this interview with Chris Connelly on MTV in 1999. It was for the MTV movie special. It's one of my favorite. I watched it all the time. So I know a lot of it by heart that Chris points out that he thinks a lot of her characters have been so strong because they've had a lack of parents. And Drew goes like, Oh my. God. And you just see it like hitting her and she's like, what? Oh my God. And she's like, you're going to make me obsessed for like, the next several months thinking about this.

But he's right. I don't remember. That Oh yeah, it's so true. But I was thinking, wow, this is her third like big film role and all three of them ET irreconcilable differences in this. There's like a parent missing or they're neglectful or whatever. So it's just it's just fascinating that even back then that was already a theme. Yeah, kind of crazy. Mmhmm. I mean, what I've noticed in these films is like Drew's relationship with the, like, male characters. Like I just was like, oh, like, I'm just thinking of her age, you know?

It's just like, oh, like so tender. And then it's just like. But she just, like, wants a dad. Yes, Speaking of her mom, in the film she was played by Heather Locklear. And I was like, OK, I remember acknowledging previously that we're like, she must have been young. Yeah, it's so funny. I had the same thought and I actually did look up her age as well when I was watching it. But I think we had to note it because she's 22 years old when they filmed this and I don't she she must be playing like slightly older, but people just like looked a little bit.

The way they dressed was a little bit older anyway in the 80s. But I'm like, that is so young. Yeah, with an 8 year old, OK. I was just thinking, it's funny that she ended up, you know, being on Melrose Place and Drew was so obsessed with that show, so that must have been fun for her to be like, that was my mom once. Yeah, that is so true. And then the last thing I wanted to say, it was like another general note, But there are so many instances where Charlie's father, Drew's characters, father's just like carrying her around.

Yeah, always like and he's like so much like manhandling her like it doesn't seem like he's hurting her, but it's just very like picking her up and carrying her like. Like under his arm. Like a football. OK. Is that actor's name David Keith? Is that what the father's name is? OK, yeah. Yeah. So I think by the way, I I have a note later, but I think he's kind of cute.

Anyway, moving on from her parents for a second. So this is something that we've talked about before and that podcast that's going through Jews entire filmography, the Drew Barrymoreth on, they've mentioned this and it just made me laugh, is that when Drew was little, she sometimes had these little smirks on her face when she was delivering lines like she's trying not to laugh. And I noticed it pretty strongly in the scene at the airport before and after she sets that jerk on fire. Yes. And that scene, also that dialogue.

He just keeps saying the same thing over and over again. I know, Oh. My God, this is good. We've cut a little bit of this. Anyway. I also loved that in the little flashback in their kitchen where she sets her mom's oven mitts on fire on accident, that Giroux is wearing the yarn pigtails that of course she has an ET. And then she also sported a lot in 1982. It was kind of like a little trademark of hers for a bit, so I thought that was fun. I also feel like the set of pajamas that she's wearing, I think it's in that scene.

Is she still in pajamas? Anyway, it's like looks like something I had in the 80s. Oh, totally. Like a very specific type of nightgown. Very early 80s vibes for sure. Totally the first little shot that they showed of the shop, which is like the lab, I guess, where they do all this stuff. Government. Lab Yeah, that was the first part that made me go, Oh, that's right. This is like. Definitely a heavy inspiration for Stranger Things, which is funny because so is ET. So they like, show this, like chain link fence of the entrance of the shop.

And I was like, and it's like in a forest. I was like, this looks exactly like the one in Stranger Things, totally constant throughout that whole part of the movie is sort of like doing these experiments on this little girl who has powers. And yeah, it's all very, very connected to that. So that's. Fun. It was funny that you made that note because I have a friend staying with me and she also said like. I think describing kind of sounds like Stranger Things. I was like, totally it's already in our notes like, so funny.

I know it's funny because I was, you know, trying to sell this to Mila to watch and she wasn't that interested in the later. I was like, oh, I could have told her this was like heavily Stranger Things related, but Oh well, it's alright. Maybe some other time. OK, so Drew and her dad are hitchhiking and they end up getting a ride with this nice old man. And it's just a really cute scene. He says that his wife would be really excited because she's always wanted a little girl. And then Drew just makes like a really sweet face at the guy, like.

I don't know. It's funny, like some of her, and I'll have a little note about this later. Some of her line deliveries are a little. Like, not so great, I know, But then some are really good. Yeah, and a lot of her expressions are really, really good in it. So I. Do feel like her, the her expressiveness is like really like the biggest thing in this film obviously is there like so many close-ups and I'm like there there are only a couple times where that smirk comes out like. Surprisingly few, you know.

Yeah, Yeah. Anyway, so Speaking of this wife that they go to visit, it's Louise Fletcher who plays the, the older man's wife. And I was like, Oh my God, this, this woman's amazing. And I was like waiting to like, have her have a really dramatic moment. So she's, she famously plays Nurse Ratchet in one Floor Over the Cuckoo's Nest, which I don't know if you've ever seen it, but it was several years before. Yeah, I've seen it once. I barely remember it. But I always know her. I'm like scared of her from flowers in the attic.

Did you ever watch? That she's the grandmother. Oh my gosh, I loved CC Andrews and I don't know if I ever saw that movie, but she's an amazing actress in this. She doesn't really get to shine as much, so I just kept. Waiting. She's just like this nice lady. Yes, I I don't know if she won an award for one for the. I think she did win an Oscar for it. I think you're right. I mean, I maybe I can look that up really quick. Just out of curiosity. You look that up. While I mentioned that, I thought it was so cute that Drew's playing with chickens at their farm, which is like, you know, later on in life she would have all these chickens and be so into it.

So I was like, oh, that's fun. It's. Such a cute scene. I had the same thought. She won Yes for One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest for Best Actress in a leading role. So then I was just like when I saw her, I was like kind of expecting. Anyway, OK, so I I literally put a note that says her burp. I knew you were. I knew you're going to note that I was like, I'm not even going to write it. She's going to get it. Because it's so good. So you feel like similarly to chickens on the farm, it's like Drew's burps are just like part of her life now.

I know. Definitely like some interesting like, oh, this is her then, this is her now. Same thing, yeah. There were a couple of quotes I wrote down. She figures out that the federal agents are on their way or whoever the heck they are, the guys that basically they're like trying to get them because they're dangerous weapons. So I don't, I don't really. I mean, the whole thing is, of course they're dangerous. It's a little shaky, but little little. Charlie McGee, it says to the old man he's like, I'm going to go get my deer gun.

And she says to him. You don't need your gun. I've got this. It's like kind of sad, like you don't need your gun. Yeah, and that whole scene is just explosions. It's like the first time you really see her do like a big setting shit on fire. Yeah, well, the dad even says she's never done anything like this before. Like, I think it's supposed to be the first time she really goes crazy. Yes. But yeah, that's where I noted like, OK, some of her acting so far has been a little bit, but in that scene and then all the others where she starts burning things, like her face gets really intense.

And I love that. Yeah, it's really good. But I one thing I will know is like, I'm not like a huge, like action film fan, like huge, like senseless explosions. But you know that. I mean, there's a little bit of that in like Charlie's Angels, just for fun, but like in this film. It goes on like for a long time. Like, especially the end. We'll get to that. So I am usually the one that points out cars I like in films. It's never going to be me. In this film, when they're running away after that big, you know, Firestorm, they're driving in a Jeep.

That's given to them by this older couple. And it's just an awesome, like, I don't even know what it is, like a Jeep Wrangler. It's red, it's pretty cute. And I was like, I drive that. I love it. They arrive at the lake where they're going to Grandpa's lake house, and she's just so cute when they're arriving. She's like. I know, It's like feeling all good. Seems like she gets a chance to act like a little kid for a minute. You know, she's talking to her dad when they're at the lake and they're kind of settling in that she's like.

You know, well, I get to go back to school and be like everybody else. I know I almost made a note about that too. It felt so true to Drew's life, right? Yeah, where I was just and like, she just went out to be a normal kid. I know. And I was like, Nope, Drew, you're never going to be like everybody else for the rest of your life. You're going to be incredibly famous. You're going to be the fire starter. I'm sorry. You know what? You know what? She lights up a room when she walks in. She's the. Fire starter.

Perfect. All right, so one other note I wanted to make. We talked about George C Scott a little bit. He's pretty creepy. Right, yes. OK. So. I could be remembering this wrong. Like I said, I read the book in the year 2000. Yeah, it's been a while. But if I remember right, in the book, first of all that characters supposed to be Native American. So it's kind of. Like, yeah, they call he's Rain Bird. Yeah, I mean, OK, that's just typical. Wait. But anyway, I think he's supposed to be like pedophile in the book, if I'm remembering right?

So that just adds a whole level of creepiness that, like, he's already awful. But then, like, I came in with that sort of memory and I was just like, I don't like this. But there's the part where he's describing like his intentions. Is for her to be his. And like, we're gonna be terrible friends like, it's so. Creepy. Yep. Are but. I couldn't remember what happened with their relationship, so I was kind of like, is this creepier than I remember? Yeah, and I just say it is funny for me because. He plays Ebenezer Scrooge and one of the renditions of A Christmas Carol, and it's the one that my dad likes the most.

So I've seen him in that role so many times that, like watching him play this part, it just feels like he's Scrooge. And. It kind of took me out for a second. So this is kind of similar to what I said before about being so cute at the lake. Drew and her dad at the lake house and they show them fishing and Drew's just so cute in that scene. Like, I don't really remember much details about it, but she's just like cute little drail. Yeah, she's very adorable. Yes. And then there's like ET style federal agent approach.

Don't you think? Because they're like? I can't believe I didn't catch that. Yeah, they're in the suits and it totally is like that. Yeah, seeing where they all come into their house and ET. Except for an ET. You know, they have like, the breathing, like the Yeah, both creepy, yeah. But in this, they're like coming in through like the woods in these silver suits. She doesn't burn them up. I guess it's so funny. They're like fires, supposedly fireproof suits. I know they look really cheap. Yes, and exactly.

And then I just thought it was a nice touch that when the dad like is like knocked out, I think they, oh, they both get knocked out because they're like shot with darts, I guess like knockout darts, I don't know what they're called. Tranquilizers, knockout darts, knockout darts, you know, so once they're knocked out like. The dad is like holding on to Charlie's jacket. I noticed that too. And then they show the teddy bear floating on the lake. I was like, no, I was like she. It's a nice touch, but it's also like, all right.

Really, really make it hit home, this little girl. It's. Just a little girl and her daddy, you know? Yeah, totally. And this is where I made the note that the dad's kind of cute. Oh, you liked him when he was knocked out? Yeah. You like your man unconscious, man. It's. The only way I like him. And then there's a part when they're actually at the shop because they've been captured and she's like storming around the room, looking at the walls. I love that she's like. Opening every door and they're all like, blocked.

She's just like. Like, all bad. Yeah, just like stomping around the room. It's so cute. I was just like, this is too much. I love that we made the same note after this, so, so Martin Sheen's character, he works for the shop and he comes in to try to talk to her and we both love this, she says. Get out. Now, what kind of talk is that from a nice little girl like you go to? Hell. A very stubborn, nice little girl. She's a fiery 1. A little bit fiery, I think. I just thought it was also funny that they were trying to like bribe her with toys and dolls and she was just like completely uninterested and throws a color over her face like.

You really think that this is the only thing I want right now, like? She's like, I want my father, you dumbasses. This time. She asks about her dad. Those line deliveries are not great. When do I get to see my daddy? I probably had to say a line like that so many times. True, They cut to the next scene and she's playing video games and she's wearing these, like, cute Adidas shoes. She has this cute, like, red and white outfit on. But I was like, oh, she's actually like, OK, I'll use this crap you guys gave me like, what the hell else am I going to do?

And then it's so cute until the creepy George see Scott comes out the I think she's just talking to George C Scott at this point when she says I killed them, I burned them up. And it reminds me of the ETET. The ET thing killed him Saturday Night Live 1982. I killed him. I killed the little sucker. I'm pretty sure that skit is not available to watch on Peacock, which is such a shame because it's like the only good skit. From her first security, I have it on video. I do too. Somewhere, yeah. And then we both made like a couple notes about the cinder block scene.

So they set up this like wall of cinder blocks for her to burn. For some reason I always like in my memory, I thought she was saying back off to like whoever she was. Mad at you? Yeah, but it's actually she's telling her power, I know. Why did we both have that wrong? Anyway, So she starts like learning how to control it or trying to putting it in the water. And after the cinder blocks, which is like a lot of power she had to use, she's saying back off, back off. And then this is the one that we always used to laugh at.

Back on, back on, back on.

That's why you noted it. Yeah, Back on. I think that we just quoted that more than we ever watched the, I mean for sure more than we ever wrote a film. So we just were like. Yeah, she's saying it about whoever she's trying to attack. But there are just all these instances in this, like, experimentation part of the film where she's like, talking to herself, basically, so cute. So they're, you know, all those experiments. They're all like, Drew is adorable, Many, many closeups of her lovely little face.

There's a scene. So she's like separated from her father during this part where they're at. The shop closed up into like hotel room. Oh, I know. It's so claustrophobic feeling. It looks nice, but then like Ashley said, like the windows are blocked off. So it's all this like, I don't know, Bizarro land. And Drew is so cute when she gets the note from her dad and she's wearing like this bright blue sweater with red cherries on it. You know what? They're actually apples. I just went. Looked. I was like, I thought they're apples.

I wouldn't look, they're apples. OK. Thank you so. It is very cute 80s sweater style. I thought it was a cool little touch that when she thinks they're going to leave, she puts back on her outfit rather than all these clothes that they've provided her with. I don't know. I thought that was like a nice little touch. Yeah, I I didn't notice that she was in her own clothes. But yeah, now we're going to kind of jump to the end when her father gets shot and there's just this little like. Daddy. Daddy, you're bleeding.

It's really sad. That whole scene is very sad. Yeah, she does great in that. Part she does, but also like it. I can't help but feel like it's funny. It's like the helicopter explodes. There's like fireballs. Like, literally. Fireballs are wild. Very, I mean, then I'm still laughing because when we get to our favorite line. Yeah, I mean, again, it's not funny. It's sad. But this is another thing we just quoted all the time. After she has laid waste to this place and killed everybody and made everything explode except for the horses, she let the horses.

Oh, I loved that. I loved that the horses got out. But she said for you.

Daddy, I'm just going to use that. I'm not editing and. It's good. I'm the same. It's. Yeah, exactly. It's perfect. And then I just have one more note because I just couldn't get over this at the end. I'm like only in the 80s. Could an 8 year old by herself hitchhike this guy just like lets her off at the little farm. Like he's just like here you go little girl who's by yourself. Hope you're good. I had a thought about that that, like that guy just assumes, I mean, of course, like the woman comes up, so you know Louise Fletcher and the nurse Fletcher, like Fletcher comes up Nurse Fletcher.

She comes up and like, gives her a big hug. So, like, I guess they're safe. But like, yeah, just pick a kid up, drop him off. Like, no questions asked. Did she just destroy an entire? Yeah. Like, no, no questions asked. Like, she just looks innocent. All right. So let's jump into the release and, you know, bring us back to modern day regarding fire starter the premier was in. Bangor, ME, which I find very interesting as a Mainer now. Like, that's not the biggest Mainer. Is that what you guys call?

Yeah, Mainer is really interesting. The premiere was on May 9th in 1984, which was the year I was born. And so it's in my state the year I was born. I guess this is my film now. Yeah, I guess so. There's a famous photo from the premiere of Drew lighting Stephen King's cigarette, which is a very cute photo actually. It's really cute, but it's also like you would never see that now. And he's like inside smoking. Yeah, of course. And then the movie actually was released on May 11th, 1984 and. It just happened to be featured in a ton of scifi and horror magazines.

Like we feel like we have so many articles about this one. I guess that was a big deal. I just pulled one little quote where she said to Star Log magazine. It's very scary, but I don't think it's horror movie and I would agree with that. Yeah, I think one of the reasons that I feel like a lot of the magazines talk about like the special effects and stuff like, I think that's one of the reasons it was a big deal. Plus people, which actually, yeah, I want to like give a quick note to that, I really do.

Appreciate all the practical effects in this movie. It's so nice to see that instead of just like CGICGI like, I think the fireballs are one of the only things that were clearly done, like with computers or something. Yeah, however they did it back then, but everything else is like truly real stuff happening on the screen, which is just so much more fun to watch, I think. Totally. There was a sequel, so I haven't seen any of these like. The sequels or any of us at the remakes. So there was a sequel in 2002 that starred Marguerite Moreau, which I also don't know that actress and she played the adult Charlie.

Do we know anything about like the plot of that film? Nope. I'm sure we can ask our friends at IMDb. Let's find out. It'll give us a really accurate summary, I'm sure. A young woman who has the ability to start fires with her mind. Must now face the trauma of her childhood by battling a group of very talented children and their cool leader, John Rainbird. Wait, what? So John Rainbird is back. But wait, he's His name is now John Rain. And now. He has a bunch of kids that with power. Played by, played by Malcolm McDowell has has Dennis Hopper in it.

Very strange. OK, I think we're going to have to go over that film for some reason. I'm just kidding. Yeah, you can watch that and report back Okay. And then this was really fun. In 2007, when Drew hosted SNL, she had a skit where she reprised her role as Charlie and she was selling smoked sausages and it looked like so funny. The box has a picture of her from Fire Starter on it, but yeah, she has like a little wig and the denim jacket. It's fun. It was really cute. And then just last year, 2022, there was a remake that starred Ryan Kira Armstrong as Charlie and then Zac Efron as the dad.

If you want to feel old. I remember that passing came out. I was like, wait, is me like 18? But Drew had Ryan, this little girl on the Drew Barrymore show, and it was a really sweet segment. It was like, adorable. So we'll link to that if you haven't watched it. They both, like, stood side by side and did the whole like, hair flying in the wind thing. It was so cute.

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Yeah, that's just a fact about the movie. True. And it so Mila did watch this one with me. We will get into the minute with Mila. In a minute. She was definitely confused about like the linking elements and like she thought like this guy was. Well, he's that same guy, right? I'm like, no, totally unrelated. Like it's just three different places the cat went. So it was a little, it's a little confusing. It is a little confusing. And I I think the only thing they do to differentiate is that kind of like fades like to black and then there's like a tight bill that says a different place.

Yep, Yep, all right. So Stephen King wrote the script for this. Of course, two of them segments are based on short stories from his book Night Shift. And supposedly while Fire Starter was filming, he just like wrote this in one night and told Drew the next day that he had another part for her. He, like, did it as a vehicle for her, I know. And then she asked if she could have a few days off first. Poor little thing. Oh my God. But she got several months off. They didn't start right away. She's probably like, wait, I had to do it.

Like, now wait, I'm tired. I've been working all night. But filming actually did begin on June 4th, 1984 and it went through August 6th, 1984. So pretty quick one. Yeah, pretty quick and I wasn't born yet. Yeah, you're still born. I well, my mom was, you know, she was cooking me. Drew plays four parts. In the movie The Very Beginning, she just like shows up as a mannequin who is talking to the cat, like saying like save me. After me. You know, Mila's like. What is happening? But I also forgot I forgot that like that doesn't there's no like resolution well.

I mean, he does save her at the end, right? If, if we're to believe this is like the spirit of the little girl at the end, I don't know. That's how I take it. Do you mean the little girl at the Very Endless? Yeah, like he saves her from the troll. Oh. You OK? OK, Yeah. So he's like, yeah, sure. She's like calling to the cat the whole time, like there's danger coming. You need to save me, and he does. So you think in some alternate universe, it's the same girl? Yeah, yeah. OK, got it. Just. Just the ones that appeared the mannequin.

And then there's a little girl on TV in a. Commercial. That's why they only gave her a name in the last segment. Yeah, exactly. OK, got it. That's, that's pretty good. Good job. So James Woods plays Drew's dad in the segment that's about the quitters incorporated, which we'll talk a little bit more. And they also placed her father in riding cars with boys. I feel like that I've. Well, I don't even talk about it. I feel like I've heard James Woods is kind of like creepy. Yeah, I've heard that too.

We can say that. Let's say it. But it is cool that he played her dad. When she was little and when she was older. I think that's fun. I think it's really fun and I'm sure Drew loved. That yeah, I'm sure she did. And then another fun connection is that special effects artist Carlo Rimbaldi, who basically created the creature of ET. He also did the troll in this, so that's really fun. It is a fun connection. I like ETA little more than the troll, personally, yeah. I do too. Drew amazed actress Candy Clark, who played her mom in the last segment with her ability to cry.

And she said in order to do that she would just remember her cat Gertie, who was given to her by Steven Spielberg, who had run away.

I know. So at first, the differences between Drew's new life, like she'd been going to clubs and talk, going on talk shows, hanging out with celebrities, and then her stand in Jennifer Ward, who she's been reunited with. Their life differences were, like, really obvious at first, but they quickly fell back into the way they were before. And so they would, like, ride bikes and they'd play with Jennifer's cats. They played dress up dance to Madonna. And then I thought this was fun. They'd act out Mommy dearest scenes, which Drew still loves, to quote, Mommy dearest.

And I still have never seen Mommy dearest, but I'm aware of some of the famous. Series. Yeah, I think that's all you need. I watched it once in high school with Angie and we were just like, what is this? But yeah, the wire hanger is like, that's pretty classic. That's all you really need to know. And as we said before, she was once again devastated to have to leave the set and the wards, this family, But she knew she didn't really have a choice. She had to go back home. So when Little Girl Lost, one of the quotes about this was I saw my relationship with the words as no different from the parts I played in the movies.

They were a fantasy brought to life, a dream. My dream come on, this is like just. Break my heart. Just a little bit. It's really hard. All right, let's go into the movie. I think I took a few more notes than you did. So sorry if I'm gonna talk a lot. I was talking a lot on the last one. We're all good. I First off just have to say that cat is amazing. Like, the things they got that cat to do are so good. I love it. Like great acting I. Know a bravo to general. Oh my God, I forgot the name was General General, but both the cat and her only get a name in the last, yeah.

Good. Point I wanted to talk a little bit about the smoking segment because I just thought it was interesting. It's a metaphor for basically like quitting smoking, like, what are the consequences to smoking? And in this case they're like literally like. Life or death? And then Drew herself has struggled with smoking so much of her life. Right? Well, and then I think we have to note that this is like exactly the time where Drew started smoking. Like, oh, it's crazy to look at her in this movie at her age and think that, but it's true.

This is what was going on. Pulled a photo of her holding a pack of cigarettes. That's like literally two months or one month after they stopped filming. So like, that's right, fully in it. That's right. I mean, I'm laughing. We're laughing about the irony of it. Dark humor. Yeah, on a lighter note, another car that I love just, you know, just because that's part of my brand, I guess. I'm not even like a car person, but it is now. James Woods drives a really awesome BMW in the in the movie. Totally missed that.

All right. So you got a bit more notes about this than the other segments, so let's jump in. Yeah, well, I did notice. I did pause because you hear this is part of my brand. I love photos in movies that, like they take for the movie that are supposed to look like the characters have them in their house. So there's two photos of Drew and her parents on James Wood's desk. But then I noticed, I think she's wearing the same dress that she wears in her one scene in that part. So it's kind of funny. Well then we have to look at some point and see if the parents are also wearing the.

Same clothing. They're like, let's just get this done fast. We only have two months to film. Stand by this, Bush. Go ahead. OK, so you didn't notice this, but I have to bring it up because I've always understood it to be the case. I believe that the daughter that she plays in this first section is supposed to be intellectually disabled, which is a very weird choice, and I don't know why they would go there. Maybe to, like, make the threat even more upsetting. I don't know. I guess the reason I've always thought that is that she her school says it's like for exceptional children.

And just sort of the way that Drew acts in her short little scene is definitely a little different for her. So I don't know if I'm wrong about that, but that was always the way I understood it. And I think it makes sense, but I also, I think I just thought her acting was just a little bit awkward. Well. Could have been intentional. It is interesting. Yeah, I love that her dad, James Woods, gives her a Cabbage Patch doll because that's one of the toys that they are trying to bribe her with the fire starter, but, you know, very of the time.

Absolutely. I don't think I ever had my own Cabbage Patch doll did. You are you serious? Oh, yeah, definitely. I had a couple I have like visceral memories of like they they had the signature of the Xavier Roberts. I think that's like the creator. It was like signature was on all their. On the butts but. I'm like the. Think about that now, like that seems weird. Yeah, I had one because I remember that like, I remember like, but I feel like I got it like maybe not exactly when I wanted it and maybe got it like secondhand, so I didn't like have the certificate.

Oh yeah, the birth certificate. That was a big part of it. But I thought it was funny that the little vision of Drew that the cat sees on the commercial, she has these, like, Shirley Temple curls. I just thought that was sort of fun because, you know, Drew was of course like the Shirley Temple of her time. Mila had a quote that I had to write down. So now we're in the last segment, the one where Drew is actually playing the daughter name Amanda. And the cat comes and saves her the kind of like. Part she's known for in Cat's Eye, and there's the part where she's watching Tom and Jerry and Mila said.

Dang, Tom and Jerry has been around for a long time, OK, you're old, mom. Yeah. But since we're talking about Mila, let's have her come in and tell us what she thought of Cat's. Eye. Very cool. Here's our minute with Mila. OK, so Mila, you watched some of Cat's Eye. What was your impression? Alrighty, I have a couple of things to say about this. First of all, I had to bring my cat Willow in because, you know, talking about cats, you gotta bring the cat in. Absolutely Willow. Willow.

So first of all, the mom literally is terrible. Like, who wants a mom who doesn't like cats? Like, excuse me. Not. Me for the people who like dogs. I love dogs too, so don't be like. Oh my gosh. But second of all, the dad was like, kind of cool in that one part when he, like, found the cat's little, like, a Boo Boo on the neck. Yep, telling the mom he was like, this cat is probably fine. Third of all, the little troll like my mom, like my mom told me about him and I was like. All right, sounds like a troll.

And I was like, what type of troll is this? Did he creep you out a little bit? I mean, he was creepy, but he wasn't like, Oh my gosh. Kind of goofy. Right. It was, like, so fake. It was also, I was just gonna say to you, like, that's special effects from the 1980s. So you can tell it's like not so great. Like that would probably be scarier now. Definitely, yeah, What you. Think about dreal. Oh yeah, Drew. I saw like most of the parts that she did, and she did really good. I like her curls and I like her like, I don't know, I just like that she loves the cat.

Me. Too tell us about your feelings on General the Cat. Well, General the cat, he's amazing. He's like, he reminds me of Yeti my cat, because he, like, protects my sister. In like, every way possible. He's like, don't touch her. That's my little sis. So. He reminded me a lot of that. I just love the cat in general and he's so cute. He's so cute and so tough. Yeah, I just realized that, I said. I love the cat in general, cuz you know, he's but yeah, so. Thumbs up for thumbs down. Thumbs. Up. OK, yeah.

Nice. I mean, I wouldn't watch that movie just like, but it was fun to like, see everything, so. Maybe you'll watch Firestarter one day. Yeah, I was gonna, but I changed my mind and I just didn't feel like. I didn't feel like watching it. So yeah. But I'm glad to have your feedback. I agree the cat is pretty cool.

Thank you you're. Welcome. Bye. Talk to you later.

Coming back, I also love the part where Amanda Drew's character is, like, mad at her mom because, you know, makes sense. Her mom is pretty awful. Yeah, And she's brushing her teeth and she, like, turns around and does this like, sassy. Do you know what I'm talking about? Did you catch? Yes, I do. And it's really cute. It's really, really. Cute. It was good. I also made a note because I saw this So Drew's first cover of People magazine in 1984, the feature in that was actually written on the set of Cat's Eye.

And yeah, which is kind of fun. And they talk about the oversized bedroom set that they have, you know, so that the stunt guy who's playing the troll looks small. Yes, of course. And I had that thought. Actually. I was like, oh, they clearly had to do a practical thing for. This thing just so fun, but I guess Drew and Jennifer were like playing around on the set. That oversized bedroom set. And jumping on the bed and the assistant director was like worried like she's we can't let her get hurt, you know?

And I guess Jade snapped at him and said she's been working all morning and she needs to play. I was like, all right, go Jade. Yeah, go Jade. Thankfully, I wonder how she let her play after work on Fire Starter. Where did she get to play? Was she playing with fire? Right? Speaking of moms, this was another quote, Mila said. This stupid mom. I swear, if you hurt that cat, she was so mad at the mom. I love that we got so much with Mila on this. I know. Well, we're cat lovers, just like you. Yeah. And then it's just that goofy ass fight scene with the cat in the troll and then the record player.

That's the point where I'm like, OK, if this is even remotely scary, once the record player is being turned on faster by the cat, you got it. It takes you out. You got to laugh. So ridiculous. It was like, fast enough to, like, get the troll, like, spinning, right? Was it? And then it? Spins off into the fan and dies. It's so kooky. It's like, look how silly. I know the 80s. Yes. And I love this last note. It's actually really cute. It's, well, it's interesting. I wonder why. But so Drew is just credited as our girl, which is so strange.

Like, I don't know why they didn't just call her Amanda. Or like I almost wonder if there's like a sag reason she couldn't have multiple credits. I have no idea. I think it was probably just to be like, here's the girl you saw multiple times, like this is our girl, this is the girl. Which I love, because like we always think of her as our girl too. Because. She called herself. What does she write in the heart? Oh. You're a girl? Yeah, she wrote to us. Hey, Drew. Our girl. Love it she. Told us she gave us permission to think of us that way.

All right, so the film. Cat's Eye was released April 12th, 1985. We don't really have a lot to say about that. Yeah, I don't think it was like a big success. It's sort of like a lesser known. But for what it is, I think it's fun. I will say I feel like the first segment about the smoking, like actually is really good on its own. Like it's only like 1/3 of the film, but it's actually like, yeah. That's pretty. I mentioned the middle one because it's just so like, whatever. Yeah, I mean, and she only has like, little what?

Just that little, yeah, that little curly Shirley Temple part. Yep. So Stephen King came on the Drew Barrymore show in 2021, which is fun. We'll link to that. And Drew talked about how formative he was in her early life, especially when she got to spend time with his family. So just another good example of like sort of these found father figures that she had. She also like, briefly misspeaks about when they filmed Fire Starter. She says 1982 and that. Of course she does. That's her brand. Yes, yes it is.

And then this is kind of fun. I found that there is a museum called the Cape Fear Museum in North Carolina and they had, I guess it's gotten no longer there, unfortunately, but they had this whole Wilmington filming exhibit with items from all kinds of productions. But. Including both Firestarter and Catsai, and Jennifer Ward had contributed some items to that like, well, we'll show, we'll show some pictures, but yeah, that's really fun. And she also did an interview with a local news station about it, So we'll show that, which is it's really neat to see.

I like Freeze Framed. She had like all the stuff set up on her like kitchen table from the movies, like tons of photos and you can. Oh, Jennifer Ward did. Yes, and you can barely see them, which is. It's like, so frustrating. I'm like, I can tell that's true, but I can barely see it. But I took a couple little screenshots. So anyway, we'll show some of that fun stuff. That's so cool, I will say. Like one of the things they had on exhibit was a little mug. Yeah, down. How cute I thought the mug. Was a little Bunny.

Mug. Yes, that she like boils water right at some point. It's like hot chocolate that Martin Sheen brings her. Oh my God, that's right. Yeah. Then she's like, yeah, take this hot chocolate. That's. Right. I just love that they exhibited that because it has such a like in that scene. It's prominent. Yeah, it's pretty cool, I bet. And of course, as like an archivist and museum and like a worker, I'm like, how cool would it have been to, like, work on this stuff? Oh my God. Absolutely. To be fair, our Drewsium does have screen worn costumes and.

Maybe one day you can come visit that in person. Maybe that's the. Goal. That's our teaser at the end of this episode. All right, So that was fun to talk about. Those. It was really like, I'm glad we watched them because you're right, they're not the movies that I would, like, ever put on without a reason these days, right. But it was fun to, like, get to see that again. And yeah, it's fun to see little Drew. It is fun to see Little Drew. I think I would recommend you watch them to like to get your dose of little Drew.

Yeah. And did you, like, pick up on all the, like, expressions that she makes? Or you're like, oh, that's true, like she still does the same faces and stuff? Totally. It's fun. Totally. And like, even her voice, like, doesn't sound that much different in a in a weird way, you know? OK. That was really fun. Thanks you guys for listening. If you like that go rate and review us we then you can have. Your review read on air eventually when I get all caught up and then you can follow us on Instagram at How do You Drew pod.

We also have one at Drewsium for way more Drew content. Pretty much anything under the sun and I have delved Tiptoed into the new world of threads. We'll see what goes on there, but I thought I'd set us up with accounts. Drew has yet to show up there herself as she's on the little social media break. We'll see if she makes an. Count or not? Yeah, so we're we're out there guys. You can find us do it. Also, make sure to visit [email protected] every week. We've got episode pages that are worth checking out to get the visual for all of our ear candy.

And make sure to send that listener mail to how do you drew [email protected]. Yeah. Send an e-mail and let me know if I'm right about our the portrayal of Drew's character in the early part of Cats Eye. Yes, let us know how you feel about. That, and let us know which one of these movies you like more. I'd love to, actually. We'll do a poll. I'll do a poll. Yeah, we'll do a poll and then we'll see. We can also like do a question on Spotify. That's right. Also check out Spotify. For polls and questions.

Yes, OK. The question to take us out today is what's your favorite, Barry? Oh. Drew Barrymore. Good one. I guess, like, I gotta go strawberries. Like strawberries. OK, but I also really love blueberries. But I only. But I wouldn't eat them by themselves the way I would with strawberries. I like blueberries in my cereal. So do you cut up your strawberries before you eat them, or do you just eat them like? If I'm eating them by themselves, no, because I'm lazy. But if I'm putting them in cereal, yes.

That makes sense. That makes sense. I have blueberries in my cereal. Yeah, me too. Like almost every day. I think I do it because of you. I wouldn't because you showed me that on the cover of the Trader Joe's brand cereal. It showed them eating blueberries. I just realized this, and so I started doing that with just Bran. It's so now I do it with everything. Well, they're like a super food too. Like just having a few blueberries a day is supposed to be incredibly beneficial for you, so you're welcome.

Drew Blarymore's blue Drew Blueberrymore, Blueberrymore. All right. That's our cue that we're going off the rails and it's time to say goodbye. Yes. It is. Thank you everyone and we will see you next Drew's Day. Bye. This episode of the How Do You Drew Podcast was researched and produced by Ashley and Anne from thedrazeem.com with help from our sponsor, Positive Medium. Special thanks to Matt Costa for our lovely theme song Roxy Prima for our adorable logo. And last but not least, Drew Barrymore and all the drubies who love her.

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044 – Firestarter (1984) & Cat's Eye (1985): Young Drew Barrymore's Collaborations with Steven King

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